International Friendlies (June 2017) - 2016/2017 season

[sven555]

Saudi Arabia pegged Australia twice before Australia scored a third and won the match.

England just equalized, 15 minutes to go. 1-1.

gecko235,

The match between Italy and Uruguay yesterday was played in Nice, France.

The match today between Italy and England U20's is being play in South Korea as the World Cup.

Different rulers are being used.

[sven555]

And, as I post; England have just scored to make it 1-2 to England haha

[sven555]

FT: Italy 1-3 England

England scored 3 second half goals to win the tie. Perhaps I underestimated their ability to get back into the game, not 1 goal, but 3!

[gecko235]

oops england came back to win 3-1

[soccerfan]

Jun 8, 2017 13:02:39 GMT gecko235 said:

oops england came back to win 3-1

Ops it's hurt me. Btw congratulations to young England brigade. Won from behind not easy task at all.

[azif]

Hi guys. Italy and Spain...wrong predictions. Need to work more. Cheers!

[azif]

Jun 8, 2017 9:33:29 GMT sven555 said:

Peru vs Paraguay

Can't see Peru losing this, Paraguay could come back into the match in the 2nd half.

2-2 draw.

Hi Sven,

We have here Scorpius vs Taurus. If both teams play in the expected colours, then Paraguay is the Asc right? (darker colour). But see this Moon's Dispositor, Jupiter: it is retrograde. So, I think we might have a tie here. Also, check out the angles: Moon mutable and PoF Fixed. For the last couple of days we have been experiencing a "mess" with Jupiter R, with favourites not winning, and this is another case IMO. Peru is a tremendous favourite. What do you think?

Also, I think someone could open a thread dedicated to find out the "rules" (at least the very basic ones) in order to predict sports events. We could change them during time, results and improved methodologies.

Cheers.

[sven555]

azif, yeah thanks haha it is painful getting incorrect predictions. Did you bet on any of the matches?

It seems that Peru are rated as favourites purely because they are the home team, from memory Peru are the lowest ranked side in South America or is it Bolivia?

At the moment, we are all trying to experiment with our own given methods to find the most probable one that works. Sometimes it can be as simply assigning the teams incorrectly. But in reality there are no "rules" more "guidelines".

[azif]

Jun 8, 2017 16:54:11 GMT sven555 said:

azif , yeah thanks haha it is painful getting incorrect predictions. Did you bet on any of the matches?

It seems that Peru are rated as favourites purely because they are the home team, from memory Peru are the lowest ranked side in South America or is it Bolivia?

At the moment, we are all trying to experiment with our own given methods to find the most probable one that works. Sometimes it can be as simply assigning the teams incorrectly. But in reality there are no "rules" more "guidelines".

Yeah Sven, lately I just bet on bloody Germany to win...so. But yes, I still like them
No, Bolivia and Venezuela are worst than Peru. The late years of Paraguay haven't been so good either. They had good strikers a few years ago (Cardozo, Valdes, Barrios, Santa Cruz) and now they have Iturbe and Denis González, but they aren't as good as they used to. Peru, on the other hand, has slightly better players (Guerrero, Cubillas or Carrillo, from SLB). In the table, both have 18 points, but Paraguay suffered more goals than Peru. So, I assume they are favourites not also because they play home but have, in general, better players.

Of course we are trying. What I mean by "rules" is precisely "guidelines"; of course this is not so obvious; but I think we might reach a more concrete group of laws with experience. Include R planets, Moon VOC, etc. Or Moon's aspect to PoF, which is pretty much definitive IMO.

So, if I may: why do you think Peru will not lose?
 

[sven555]

I remember Paraguay qualified for the 2006 and 2010 world cups, but not the 2014. Perhaps they are on a decline right now. That makes sense then as to why Peru are favourites then, i haven't seen them play for some time.

Ah ok, I understand what you mean now. Yes, there is a set of universal guidelines such as Moon VOC (nothing interesting happens), Moon-POF (helps ASC team). One thing I will point out, is house placement has alot more strength than aspects, speed and sign placements. Except when there is an obvious aspect between Moon-L1/Moon-L7 or POF tightly coupled with L1/L7.

What I can do is, make a table of terms and definitions and make it a sticky at the top of the forums, so we all have a reference.

Peru start off on the front foot in the match because they are Mars (imo) and Venus is weak in 6th, until ASC/DSC changes.

Moon in 1st house for the whole match, so that will guarantee a draw for the ASC team. This is something I haven't seen for a long time, where there is good testimonies for both teams. ASC change brings Jupiter in 11th and Mercury in 7th moving 6th house. But if DSC team is losing the match, usually they would be able to level or take the lead with Mercury in 6th house. But Moon being the time manager in 1st could restrict it to equalizing. 

[sven555]

I hope this answers some of your questions azif.

[azif]

Jun 8, 2017 17:28:14 GMT sven555 said:

I hope this answers some of your questions azif .

Thank you so much for your clarification. It is very helpful. Although, allow me to ask you a trivial question: why always the opposition Mars-Venus? I mean, my line of thought is this: 0) Look for Moon's aspects; 1) Who´s Asc and Dsc in chart; 2) Which planets are present in those houses; 3) Which planets in 4th and 10th; 4) See if any planet is in Rulership, Exaltation, Detriment of Fall; 5) Check out for Retrograde planets in 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th.

Am I missing something? I mean, I tend to focus only in their initial positions in those 4 nuclear houses.

Paraguay is Scorpio, right? (if they play darker) So they're Asc. But 1st, 4th and 10th are "empty". So, we have 7th, which has Mercury, the Rulership of Gemini. So, according to this, the Dsc is in good position to win, I assume - which is in fact Peru and not Paraguay as I wrongly attributed before.

Conclusion: Moon tells few things in this particular case (it will fall in Scorpio during the match, so another reason to think Asc will lose), nuclear houses are empty and 7th strengthens the Dsc.


Is this way of thinking too confusing?


Thanks once again!
 

[sven555]

azif,

Mars-Venus because those are the lords of the 1st and 7th houses.
That is why i choose Mars-Venus.

[sven555]

I'll take a look at your method later man and then see how it works on some examples

[azif]

Jun 8, 2017 18:19:19 GMT sven555 said:

azif ,

Mars-Venus because those are the lords of the 1st and 7th houses.
That is why i choose Mars-Venus.

Ok, thanks. I just tend to have a more "contingent" approach; is doesn't means it's the correct one.
Cheers.