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Post by StarVega on Nov 30, 2017 13:53:57 GMT
Scorpio = endings, transformation
Jupiter = learning
I suppose this current transit encourages us to revise our thinking.
Has anyone decided to try and break away from certain beliefs or thought patterns?
I'm tempted to adopt an effort to stop believing in "soul mates"...or at least, I'll seriously re-think it.
I would like to makeover my belief system if only out of boredom and wanting new stuff to think about. (Draconic Jupiter @ 22 Gemini on my antivertex currently.)
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Post by lucina on Nov 30, 2017 14:36:51 GMT
I did Something similiar some years ago, wegen stopping with the twinflame concept. IT IS Not even souch a Case of Not believing, ist's Just more Like "so what?"
As for soulmates, hmm i guess i believe in Them. But Not in the new age Kind.
I suppose what i really believe in are "Soulconnections". Not really that they are mated for Life AS a given though. Which reminds my lovely Pupillen from Afghanistan showed me a poem she wrote today. And without even Using the Term soulmates she completely expressed the experience and Wonder of a true soulconnection while also accepting the limitations of the physical distance, which Sometimes IS hard to Balance. I guess some soulconnection are simply Not meant to be in a conventional relationship, which does Not make Them any less valuable though. I was Impressum about her expressive Grado of that. Well at least she stopped writing about darkness, despair and death. I meant WE all can Imagine why. But i am Always Happy to See some silver lining in her Poems recently. Sorry i geht distracted.lol
Anyway personall i don't Care about Labels anymore. IT IS about the experience, and If someone treats me Like crap that IS what i will Deal with and Not some elusive Sometimes delusional Abstract concept of soulmates or however er Fall Them actually If someone treats me Like crap i Take IT AS a Sure Shot Signal He IS Not my soulmate.
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Post by StarVega on Nov 30, 2017 15:06:10 GMT
I thought it was almost like, Love is this piece of heaven entrusted to two people, it sits like a magical crystal in their lives, emitting magic, creating synchronicities, raising their vibration blissfully and effortlessly.
You can't blame me for dreaming, I have Venus conjunct Neptune, what else can a girl do?
Now it's more as you said: soul connections, maybe imperfect, maybe transient, it depends on what the people make of it.
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Post by sven555 on Nov 30, 2017 15:57:14 GMT
Scorpio = endings, transformation Jupiter = learning I suppose this current transit encourages us to revise our thinking. Has anyone decided to try and break away from certain beliefs or thought patterns? I'm tempted to adopt an effort to stop believing in "soul mates"...or at least, I'll seriously re-think it. I would like to makeover my belief system if only out of boredom and wanting new stuff to think about. (Draconic Jupiter @ 22 Gemini on my antivertex currently.) Now is the time for your very own renaissance! |
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Post by pufferfishy on Nov 30, 2017 17:46:35 GMT
:edit: Not sure what to say..
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Post by sven555 on Nov 30, 2017 18:01:17 GMT
Hmm.. You gave me lots of food for thought. *Although I would slightly change that to, "Love is not *just* a feeling."
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Post by lucina on Nov 30, 2017 19:22:41 GMT
I would have agreed with you years ago, now, I have to say, very uncharacteristically Aquarius-moony, love IS a feeling after all. (it is also a choice of course, well not the love is a choice really, but the way you want to express it and manifest it in this life). I totally thought like that before, that I can fall in love with anybody or nobody, and it is pretty much the same, really, a choice really, when the time is right or something. But I had to accept that it`s really not like that. Not for me. Not anymore. I can`t really manipulate or create almost by my own will the experience or the depth or just the kind of feeling. But of course there is wide difference between FEELING and ACTING. If they say: Love is a choice, it to me refers to the acting on the feeling, or what to do with it, making a deliberate choice to accept it or refuse it, but no matter what the choice, it doesn`t change the basic feeling per se. If the feeling is really strong and is love, then it`s all good, about the choosing love. If however it is not quite like that, then the choice of "love" really becomes settling for different motives than love, which might all have their justification, btw. Also of course love itself can have many different shades (not of grey  ). It`s weird, I´ve become so mushy in my old years. lol |
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Post by pufferfishy on Nov 30, 2017 19:26:17 GMT
"Love is not just a feeling" is not the same as "Love is devoid of feeling". Being able to fall in love with anybody is quite mushy in itself, I would think.
My point was, love is a much deeper feeling than what is in the realm of "feelings" that we know of, that we can put a finger on.
How deep it goes is how hard the choice will be. The choice is not merely whether to act on it or not - that's in the initial stages. It's a one-off "choice". Love exists regardless of what action you take. It takes on a life of its own. Long after you've "chosen" that person, assuming they've chosen you too - your journey of love is only just beginning. We ourselves cannot foretell how much it will grow, how deep it will plant its roots in us. The "choice" here, is to continue loving that person in every way. Not in the sense of "settling" - but not letting surface feelings fool you into thinking the love is gone. The word is too shallow to express what I mean. Perhaps I'll come back with a better explanation.
But I was not being clinical or pragmatic about it at all, I'd be the last person to be that way.
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Post by pufferfishy on Nov 30, 2017 19:29:04 GMT
This much food for thought?
Lol!!  |
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Post by lucina on Nov 30, 2017 19:34:23 GMT
"Love is not just a feeling" is not the same as "Love is devoid of feeling". Yes, I understand you. I do agree with you up to a certain degree, but only to that degree. I cannot really explain it either, it also depends probably how we define "feeling". As to deciding to continue to love someone, that is where I will have to disagree. It`s not a decision you can make. What you can do is water the feeling that is existent of course, cherish it, but I don`t think that is the same as deciding to love someone. Maybe I misunderstand you though. |
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Post by pufferfishy on Nov 30, 2017 19:36:33 GMT
As to deciding to continue to love someone, that is where I will have to disagree. It`s not a decision you can make. What you can do is water the feeling that is existent of course, cherish it, but I don`t think that is the same as deciding to love someone. Maybe I misunderstand you though. Haha! I knew this would happen. That's not what I meant at all. Yeah, words are lacking. Too many feelings flying around. ETA : It's okay though, it's just one of those things. Lots of subtlety & nebulousness. |
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Post by lucina on Nov 30, 2017 19:39:48 GMT
Maybe we even mean the same but somehow cannot express it so that the other one really understands.
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Post by pufferfishy on Nov 30, 2017 19:41:54 GMT
Maybe we even mean the same but somehow cannot express it so that the other one really understands. Yeah, that's probably it. |
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Post by StarVega on Dec 1, 2017 20:07:42 GMT
Hmm.. You gave me lots of food for thought. *Although I would slightly change that to, "Love is not *just* a feeling."
It's worth repeating this ^ I'll have the chicken korma if you have no vegetable korma. Thanks!  |
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Post by StarVega on Dec 1, 2017 20:24:59 GMT
This was an interesting conversation, your Highnesses pufferfishy and lucina. I'm feeling extra wishy-washy today and don't know how to respond. When I was a teenager I was walking with a male friend of mine and told him that I felt I could fall in love with just about any guy. (Ha, well except him. That became an issue later.) He actually stopped walking, looked at me in horror and said, "You are WAY too accepting." *nods* I could accept that. Well it actually did get me thinking: What's going through my mind when I'm seeing potential with men? And why didn't my romantic life actually bear that out? After my first two relationships, I got cold feet very easily and became averse to serious relationships. What was going on, whatever happened to "Oh, I could love anyone?" Maybe I could, but that didn't mean I wanted to be their girlfriend. I think it may go back to the whole concept of namaste. "I see the Divine in you." I could see it pretty easily in a lot of people. And then for me, with moon-Mars-Neptune, and an 8H moon trine Scorpio NN, the imagination came with a desire to act and see what people (men) were about. "What is your romance language?" I wondered. (Gemini Mars) Yet I was extremely sneaky in wanting to know these things without being detected. Thank you Pisces moon. I mean I could have a whole imaginary relationship with a guy on the basis of, I adored his taste in belts and baseball hats. But why didn't it become real? I suspect a large part of it was, my heart just felt taken by someone else. And why did THAT happen? Was I just obsessively self-hypnotizing? Or was there something about the quality of that chemistry that felt binding, exclusive, and permanent? Beats me........I'm agnostic about soul mates anymore.... |
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