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Post by FruityLlama on May 29, 2020 18:31:18 GMT
sven555Thanks ever so much for that astrolog there, which one did you use? On Pullen's the hierarchy is such that Uranus is my most dominant, followed by the Moon and Venus. But I was always surprised that Neptune wasn't higher in Pullen because it rules my MC and Neptune sits in my 7th opp. ASC, and makes a few aspects to my luminary depositer Venus. So it's very much in the foreground, but your data seems to pick this up which is interesting! And makes more sense as you say. If you don't mind, I'd love to know which generator you used as I'd love to run some data through it for others. Am in the midst of doing several chart analyses for colleagues. pufferfishyThat's interesting about the angle aspects. I would agree with you that they seem more prominent because as I said above, Neptune opposes my ASC and Saturn exactly trines it. I think I feel those certainly. But like you said as well, different days can eek out different sides of the personality!
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Post by pufferfishy on May 29, 2020 21:48:47 GMT
So the calculator suggests that your top three dominant planets are Uranus, Mercury and Venus; in contrast your bottom three are Mars, Saturn and Sun; would you agree with this? Do you feel anything towards Mars, Saturn and Sun? Thank you for running the chart!
Well, I can see how Mercury/Venus might be prominent. There's emphasis on Mercury for sure, and I do identify with those pursuits. Mercury is the Venus & IC ruler, so that makes sense. And yeah, the Sun seems quietest in my chart - you're right. Mars or Martian qualities are also muted - maybe the Mars-Saturn square adds to that feeling? It's a tight aspect and Saturn definitely clamps down on Mars. I totally agree that Sun & Mars are not that prominent.
However, I think Saturn/Pluto are felt in day-to-day life because they aspect a lot of personal planets? Saturn aspects Sun, Mercury & Mars. So I do feel old, rusty & grouchy, lol. Pluto is in touch with a different side - so that defines a part of my perspective.
Oh, and the Uranus influence might be externalized (events and situations)? Well, I do wish I were more Uranian internally. 'Just feel slow coz of all the Saturn, haha.
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Post by sven555 on May 30, 2020 6:30:27 GMT
sven555 Thanks ever so much for that astrolog there, which one did you use? On Pullen's the hierarchy is such that Uranus is my most dominant, followed by the Moon and Venus. But I was always surprised that Neptune wasn't higher in Pullen because it rules my MC and Neptune sits in my 7th opp. ASC, and makes a few aspects to my luminary depositer Venus. So it's very much in the foreground, but your data seems to pick this up which is interesting! And makes more sense as you say. If you don't mind, I'd love to know which generator you used as I'd love to run some data through it for others. Am in the midst of doing several chart analyses for colleagues. Hey, you can use Pullen/Astrolog on astro.com if you wish, but I didn't use this for you this time. I created a planet dominance calculator originally for sports astrology but I felt it could work well here. I am not sure how Pullen works but the rules I use are based on a point system for each planet where each planet gains more points for sign strength, house placement, aspects etc. Right now, I have the program myself, but considering put it on the website or making some software to run on your computer. Let me know what you think would be easier  |
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Post by sven555 on May 30, 2020 7:31:19 GMT
So the calculator suggests that your top three dominant planets are Uranus, Mercury and Venus; in contrast your bottom three are Mars, Saturn and Sun; would you agree with this? Do you feel anything towards Mars, Saturn and Sun? Thank you for running the chart!
Well, I can see how Mercury/Venus might be prominent. There's emphasis on Mercury for sure, and I do identify with those pursuits. Mercury is the Venus & IC ruler, so that makes sense. And yeah, the Sun seems quietest in my chart - you're right. Mars or Martian qualities are also muted - maybe the Mars-Saturn square adds to that feeling? It's a tight aspect and Saturn definitely clamps down on Mars. I totally agree that Sun & Mars are not that prominent.
However, I think Saturn/Pluto are felt in day-to-day life because they aspect a lot of personal planets? Saturn aspects Sun, Mercury & Mars. So I do feel old, rusty & grouchy, lol. Pluto is in touch with a different side - so that defines a part of my perspective.
Oh, and the Uranus influence might be externalized (events and situations)? Well, I do wish I were more Uranian internally. 'Just feel slow coz of all the Saturn, haha.
No problem! I am glad that you can relate to the parts the calculator picked out. The Mars-Saturn square is a separating aspect, so not very strong. I think the clamping down is more the fact both planets sit in water houses and rather weak as identified. Moon-Pluto is a separating square but more likely to be influential because of both planets placements (both fire houses). The feeling of 'old, rusty & grouchy' may be because of what was already described, which is a lack of Sun/Mars. With Uranus being the most dominant, do you have days of lots of energy, then days of no energy? |
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Post by pufferfishy on May 30, 2020 13:27:32 GMT
No problem! I am glad that you can relate to the parts the calculator picked out. The Mars-Saturn square is a separating aspect, so not very strong. I think the clamping down is more the fact both planets sit in water houses and rather weak as identified. Well, yeah that may be true - water houses do play a part. But it's a pretty strong aspect at 0°, being separating does not make it any less so. There's more to the Mars-Saturn square than the damping effect, and I can attest to everything that goes with it. With Uranus being the most dominant, do you have days of lots of energy, then days of no energy? Unfortunately, no... I pretty much have no energy. But that could be because of other things. Personality-wise, I'm not sure Uranus is my strongest suit, tbh. |
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Post by sven555 on May 30, 2020 13:34:26 GMT
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Post by sven555 on May 30, 2020 13:47:57 GMT
Hey pufferfishy, so Uranus is your strongest planet but this might be externalized as you suggested. Do you think you come across to others as a Uranian person? The lack of energy is quite clearly because of a weak Mars placement and also a weak Saturn restricts you more. Would you say because these planets can be classified as weak or unrelatable, that the negative side of them is apparent? Mars is energy, so no energy; Saturn is structure, planning and responsibility, so none of those. I am just airing thoughts here; please tell me if these are relatable or not? |
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Post by pufferfishy on May 30, 2020 19:03:57 GMT
Hey pufferfishy , so Uranus is your strongest planet but this might be externalized as you suggested. Do you think you come across to others as a Uranian person? The lack of energy is quite clearly because of a weak Mars placement and also a weak Saturn restricts you more. Would you say because these planets can be classified as weak or unrelatable, that the negative side of them is apparent? Mars is energy, so no energy; Saturn is structure, planning and responsibility, so none of those. I am just airing thoughts here; please tell me if these are relatable or not? Hey, thanks for looking into this! I do wonder if the Uranian bit is externalized and perhaps a matter of perception too. After all, how I see myself is subjective. So maybe I just don't see that side of myself and it might be something that others notice. Different people pick up on different things, so it's interesting that you observe this dimension.
The next part sounds plausible too - a weakened Mars shows low energy. And the heaviness of Saturn probably contributes as well.
One thing that escaped me before is that the old ruler of Aquarius used to be Saturn, so maybe there's a residual effect?
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Post by sven555 on May 31, 2020 4:55:17 GMT
Hey pufferfishy , so Uranus is your strongest planet but this might be externalized as you suggested. Do you think you come across to others as a Uranian person? The lack of energy is quite clearly because of a weak Mars placement and also a weak Saturn restricts you more. Would you say because these planets can be classified as weak or unrelatable, that the negative side of them is apparent? Mars is energy, so no energy; Saturn is structure, planning and responsibility, so none of those. I am just airing thoughts here; please tell me if these are relatable or not? Hey, thanks for looking into this! I do wonder if the Uranian bit is externalized and perhaps a matter of perception too. After all, how I see myself is subjective. So maybe I just don't see that side of myself and it might be something that others notice. Different people pick up on different things, so it's interesting that you observe this dimension.
The next part sounds plausible too - a weakened Mars shows low energy. And the heaviness of Saturn probably contributes as well.
One thing that escaped me before is that the old ruler of Aquarius used to be Saturn, so maybe there's a residual effect?
You have Saturn in Aquarius and Uranus in Cap, so there is a mutual reception there. In terms of elements, you also lack any planets in fire signs so I think this also contributes to a low energy. We are discovering more and more each time. |
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Post by pufferfishy on May 31, 2020 20:23:06 GMT
Haha, yes - I'm totally a fire void. Boooo. Well, alright then, I'll let you folks have the pizazz. And I forgot about the mutual reception. We are discovering more and more each time. Yeah, there's always more to peel away!
:ETA: According to Pullen, Saturn & Pluto are my top planets - that I can relate to very well.
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Post by sven555 on May 31, 2020 20:39:50 GMT
Here is my results of the calculator:
Pluto - 16.82%
Mars - 14.95%
Neptune - 14.02%
Sun - 11.21%
Mercury - 8.41%
Saturn - 8.41%
Moon - 7.48%
Jupiter - 7.48%
Uranus - 6.54%
Venus - 4.67%
I think this has some true about it. Pluto, Mars and Neptune are most dominant for me although I would have thought Mercury would be higher. I do have a lot of energy but I feel I can control it well and use it to create/build things. Neptune may help with some imagination?
My bottom three planets, Venus, Uranus and Jupiter; I wouldn't say I am too philosophical, rebellious etc.
Maybe someone could have a look at my chart to help decipher it better into what I don't relate too?
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Post by pufferfishy on May 31, 2020 20:41:39 GMT
Maybe someone could have a look at my chart to help decipher it better into what I don't relate too? I can try. What are the parts you don't relate to, btw? |
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Post by sven555 on May 31, 2020 21:25:27 GMT
Maybe someone could have a look at my chart to help decipher it better into what I don't relate too? I can try. What are the parts you don't relate to, btw? Ok thank you, I’d say maybe Venus, Moon and Jupiter. Do you need more info? |
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Post by pufferfishy on May 31, 2020 22:41:33 GMT
Ok thank you, I’d say maybe Venus, Moon and Jupiter. Do you need more info? Yes please, if you don't mind..? Or I can approximate based on your Asc and other factors if you prefer. |
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Post by pufferfishy on Jun 1, 2020 0:19:48 GMT
Okay, here are your %ages according to Pullen: (I sort of guessed your ToB/place based on you chart, to match the Asc and other placements. I'm probably within 50 miles of the place, but I'll re-calibrate if I get new info.)
Pluto: 12.8%
Sun: 10.9%
Uranus: 10.2%
Mars: 9.1%
Venus: 8.5%
Mercury: 7.4%
Saturn: 7.3%
Moon: 7.2%
Neptune: 6.5%
Jupiter: 4.7%
You were just talking about not relating to Moon & Jupiter much and here they're at the bottom. Ha! One difference here is Uranus, the little bugger is 3rd. Now, I don't think that means you're rebellious or anything. Beginning to wonder if that Uranus might be showing in your choice career? (Technology-related). Or maybe it's just plain wrong. Lemme know what you think.
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