Natal chart of a project with online presence

[lucina]

Well as I wrote above, this is the natal chart of a project, that as I believe took a life of its own that not even the creators had anticipated. 
I found it fitting to post it because this project is going have its first birthday this week. and I cannot believe I never even thought of checking it before!


I am curious what you think of it (I reduced the orb to 50%, but this did not really change the chart pattern, but just made it stand out even more clearly)


StarVega, I know you know what this is.  
But let`s try to pretend we don`t know, and look at it with fresh eyes, even though mine nearly fell out of my head, realizing that the event chart`s DESC is conjunct a certain someone`s pr Sun on 5 Aquarius, with the interesting Sabian of:   A Masked Figure Performs Ritualistic Acts In A Mystery Play







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[StarVega]

Holy cats, a grand cross and grand trine!

Well the 5 Aqua is because they sensed I would be listening, too.   

Am I actually seeing BACON on the moon?!?

[lucina]

May 30, 2017 20:27:22 GMT StarVega said:

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Am I actually seeing BACON on the moon?!?

My reaction exactly!!!! And Ceres is there as well. lol 
And well all they ever do is eating and if they don´t they are drinking something or at least talking about drinking and eating, or dieting. LOL This is so matching.


BTW I checked for the very first time that I commented, on the same day, but hours later, (and did I have to mention the horoscope-thing? lol I forgot about it, but hey I do remember now, P had to mention horoscopes in the very first episode, right? Anyway, at that time they did not even have a name). 


Anyway the first time I commented, Tr Moon had become partile conjunct Tr Uranus within just a few minutes on the same degree, 23 Aries. lol 


And sure they know you are listening!


Oh BTW interestingly enough when we had that memorable after-musical-meeting just 2 weeks before, there was also a grand trine, but at that time it was


Moon 18 Virgo
MC 18 Virgo (one minute orb to Moon)
NN 19 Virgo 

trine

Pluto 17 Taurus


trine

Mercury 16 Taurus (well 15°58)
Venus 19 Taurus 


I find that especially funny as in my own chart my nameasteroid is on 16°58 Taurus.



BTW of course  I never checked that before but our composite has BACON exactly conjunct JUNO on 22 Taurus. LOL (and trine Moon on 22 Capricorn and sextile Ceres on 23 Pisces). 


Well I am pretty sure whoever named the asteroid was thinking about the philosopher with that name, but hey, Bacon is bacon after all. lol My own chart has it on 19 Aries conjunct Chiron curiously enough. He has has it on 25 Gemini near his IC and exactly opposing my Sun-Mercury. 

[StarVega]

lucina

I love all these details, sorry for taking so long to reply!

"the event chart`s DESC is conjunct a certain someone`s pr Sun on 5 Aquarius"

Maybe he was in a relationship-oriented frame of mind.

"Anyway the first time I commented, Tr Moon had become partile conjunct Tr Uranus within just a few minutes on the same degree, 23 Aries. lol"

How could you even resist? It's like universal forces just take control of us.

"BTW of course I never checked that before but our composite has BACON exactly conjunct JUNO on 22 Taurus. LOL (and trine Moon on 22 Capricorn and sextile Ceres on 23 Pisces)."

That is *CRAZY.* Seriously?

Have you looked at this chart in progressions? I wonder if it will be an indicator of what the shows will be like (pr chart plus transits).

[lucina]

@starvenus

"Maybe he was in a relationship-oriented frame of mind. "
Well curiously enough the pr (or in this case regressed ) Karmabacon chart`s DESC was conjunct our pr composite Sun by 1 minute on 23rd august 2015.
Which was the date the first fanmeeting took place! Of course that was several months before he even started the podcasts, but who knows? Maybe something on that date was planting some sort of mental seed or idea in him?
Though of course this was the pr composite Sun. hm..


Well his pr Mercury was on the same degree, 10 minutes applying to conjunct pr Podcasts DESC and our pr composite Sun.




"Seriously? "
Yes.



"Have you looked at this chart in progressions?"
Well since it`s only one year old the planets are not really progressing that much, except the Moon of course.
It does have an applying Sun-Venus-conjunction though, but they are nearly equally fast, so it will take some time to perfect, or many years, however it does sneak closer to the under 1 degree orb (which seems to be a somewhat important line). that will happen in summer next year I think.
and the exact Sun-Venus-conjunction will happen at the end of 2021, on 18th december (No kidding! lol) on 16°33 Gemini


It`s quite interesting anyway that the ASC-ruler is Sun, and that conjuncts Venus in Gemini in 11th house, and adding to that the DESC-ruler Uranus, conjunct Moon (and Ceres) in Aries in 10th house.
No wonder they have mainly female audience. lol Well there are some exceptions of course, but it`s mostly the female part of the audience who is commenting (Venus in gemini! )
And Moon in Aries isn`t all that shy either.


Well it`s interesting that Moon is conjunct URanus, and actually I was first commenting (and probably thereby activating my personal "first podcast meeting chart" with them) when Moon had been exact on Uranus that day. I mean I don`t have an Aqua-Moon parallel Uranus for nothing I guess! lol Also that conjunction is just about 2 degrees from my Draconic Venus and even closer to his Draconic Desc (and in conjunction with his Draco Saturn-Vertex as well).
But most notably exactly opposing our composite Mars, which is of course conjunct composite NN (nad yes of course that Podcasts Moon-Ceres-Uranus sits on our composite SN, in fact while the MOon-Uranus conjunction was a bit wide when they uploaded the first podcast - about 5 degrees, the midpoint of Moon/Uranus and Ceres/Uranus falls exactly onto our composite SN, though that means it ALSO conjuncts my natal Chiron and opposes his natal Pluto. lol Well I´ve always said this combo looked to me very peculiar, his natal Pluto on composite Mars-Amor-Cupido-NN, my natal Chiron on composite SN, and almost like his Pluto in his own natal 7th house is trying to drag my Chiron out of the clinging to the old and even more out of the hiding place that a natal 4th house sometimes can be, and of course very literally dragging me a bit out of circling constantly around my family and instead trying to have a bit more individual fun in my life. Seems the podcasts Moon-Uranus-Ceres really emphasize this, too. though it is interesting that these are on my natal Chiron in 4th, but then again that is some aspect of the podcast that fascinates me, just how much I am recognizing my own childhood in this!)


But anyway I did check the progressed podcast chart and transit chart for the time last year, when they did the live video and P was suddenly addressing me personally. lol

By then there was

pr Moon 22°46 Aries
pr Uranus 23°12 Aries

Tr Venus was on 24-25 Libra that day
Tr Mercury (retro) was conjunct the pr podcasts Jupiter and NN
Tr Mars was conjunct the pr Vertex (and opposing my natal Mercury partile)
Tr Pluto (retro) was partile square the pr MC-IC-axis
But Tr Saturnw as also in a partile opposition to the pr Sun-Venus-conjunction, weird, hu?






On the other hand if this pr/ transit chart of the podcasts natal is describing the shows, well something weird must come up at the moment, cause the last one was really a bit weird.
But then again who posts the 29th episode of something on the 29th (may)? That is a bit much of 29-I think. lol


Well just waht I see there:

Tr Sun conjunct pr podcast Vesta on 7 Gemini in 11th house
Tr Ceres conjunct pr podcast Sun on 11 Gemin in 11th house (3 minute orb)
Tr Saturn within 1,5 degree conjunct pr podcast Vertex on 24 Gemini
Tr Mars opposite pr podcast Vertex by about 1 degree as well (so the Tr Mars-Saturn-opposition was highlighted, and was so on my Sun-Mercury-conjunction. and also pulling in pr Chiron on 24 Pisces lol)

Tr Vesta conjunct pr ASC by 2 degrees
Tr NN squyre pr Mars exactly

Tr Jupiter conjunct pr IC by 2 degrees
(Tr Jupiter also trine pr Sun on 12 Gemini and sextile pr Saturn on 13 Sagittarius; yeah not sure how I find the applying opposition between Sun and Saturn in that chart, but they`ve been pretty dedicated/ obligated to doing these podcasts at least for the last months)


Tr Juno conjunct pr Pluto exact, and square pr Ceres and trine pr NN exact


Tr Venus conjunct pr Uranus exactly, naturally.

Tr Mercury conjunct pr Mercury by 3 degrees applying


As for the pr Moon it is by now on 2 Taurus, actually I found this interesting


pr Moon 2°54 Taurus
my pr Uranus 2°27 Scorpio
his n Vesta 2°59 Taurus














I wonder if it will be an indicator of what the shows will be like (pr chart plus transits).

[StarVega]

lucina,

"Which was the date the first fanmeeting took place! Of course that was several months before he even started the podcasts, but who knows? Maybe something on that date was planting some sort of mental seed or idea in him?
Though of course this was the pr composite Sun. hm.."

Wow! ...I love regressed charts and have seen weird things like that, an apparent "planting of seeds." Like the whole design of time allows for us to see trajectories.

"Well his pr Mercury was on the same degree, 10 minutes applying to conjunct pr Podcasts DESC and our pr composite Sun."



"It`s quite interesting anyway that the ASC-ruler is Sun, and that conjuncts Venus in Gemini in 11th house, and adding to that the DESC-ruler Uranus, conjunct Moon (and Ceres) in Aries in 10th house.
No wonder they have mainly female audience. lol"

Oh how funny....that does fit! And I guess by the time sun-Uranus perfects, pr Mars will be in Sag? Then it really gets wild.

"Well it`s interesting that Moon is conjunct URanus, and actually I was first commenting (and probably thereby activating my personal "first podcast meeting chart" with them) when Moon had been exact on Uranus that day. I mean I don`t have an Aqua-Moon parallel Uranus for nothing I guess! lol Also that conjunction is just about 2 degrees from my Draconic Venus and even closer to his Draconic Desc (and in conjunction with his Draco Saturn-Vertex as well)."

Ohhhh....you know sometimes you say things spontaneously and attribute it to Sag Mercury....Aqua moon parallel Uranus is probably compelling you to engage in life more fully, too. I know that Uranus transits have sometimes made me want to take huge risks socially, like re-contacting people I haven't talked to in ages. But I have moon = Saturn/Uranus midpoint and usually don't cave in. Which makes life more boring perhaps.

I forgot you two have a draco Venus-DSC conjunction!

"almost like his Pluto in his own natal 7th house is trying to drag my Chiron out of the clinging to the old and even more out of the hiding place that a natal 4th house sometimes can be, and of course very literally dragging me a bit out of circling constantly around my family and instead trying to have a bit more individual fun in my life. Seems the podcasts Moon-Uranus-Ceres really emphasize this, too. though it is interesting that these are on my natal Chiron in 4th, but then again that is some aspect of the podcast that fascinates me, just how much I am recognizing my own childhood in this!"

Aw! Yes I know what you mean about recognizing your childhood, and that is such a remarkably intricate and yet fitting observation there.

Uranus-Ceres calls to mind strange food. Their type of bacon is strange indeed.

"But anyway I did check the progressed podcast chart and transit chart for the time last year, when they did the live video and P was suddenly addressing me personally. lol "

*nods* Data pointing to some friendliness there.

"Tr Mars opposite pr podcast Vertex by about 1 degree as well (so the Tr Mars-Saturn-opposition was highlighted, and was so on my Sun-Mercury-conjunction. and also pulling in pr Chiron on 24 Pisces lol)
Tr NN squyre pr Mars exactly"

Maybe these Mars oddities help explain the odd feeling you got from the podcast, as if P had things on his mind he wouldn't say. Gem Mars opposing Saturn, held back. NN square pr Mars...same thing, or rather...decisions might feel more consequential then.

"Tr Venus conjunct pr Uranus exactly, naturally."

I'm really fond of Venus-Uranus contacts.

Hmm, where is Uranus now? 27 Aries...trine your suns. I think it's almost a shame you've got Saturn on your suns at the same time, but who am I to tinker with the order of things. And Saturn can be a romance planet of course, as I was saying about Cap and the MC/10th house lately. Well you two are both romantics even with the drab and dreary Cap Venuses.

[lucina]

StarVega


"..I love regressed charts"
Never really thought about them, but it makes sense, the planting-seed-thing.

So I just progressed my own natal to P`s birth, just some tidbits:
my pr ASC on 10 Sag, same degree as pr Neptune and pr NN - in fact pr Neptune and pr NN only 2 minutes apart, and my pr NN was being direct for a change, it rarely is, of course.



pr Amor PRECISELY conjunct n ASC (no orb at all)
pr Sun on 1 Cap, exactly on my n Sun/Venus-midpoint (no orb either, same minute)
many years later we would meet with Tr Pluto being just one minute conjunct that. lol
pr Venus coming into partile ocnjunction with his name in my natal chart
pr Ceres coming into partile conjunction with pr Jupiter

T.square of his pr Name on 17 Cap, pr Saturn on 16 Cancer, pr Moon on 17 Aries
his pr name also trine my pr name with just a bout half a degree (my pr name sextile pr Saturn exact)

and wow, is that not hilarious?

M`s pr name on 17 Leo square my pr name and quinkunx his pr name exact (of course also trine pr Moon though)




and regressing his chart to my natal

pr Vesta trine pr NN
pr MC sextile pr Pallas-Psyche
pr Pallas conjunct pr Psyche on 23 Aqua exact
pr Chiron opposite pr M exact (though pr M is also in orb for trining his pr name)
pr Mercury square pr NN
pr Amor opp. pr Eros on 5 degree Virgo-Pisces
pr Mars conjunct pr Jupiter conjunct his pr name
pr Venus trine pr Lilith with a bit over 1 degree
pr Vertex conjunct n DESC exact
pr Moon conjunct pr Pluto, but with 2 degree orb),
pr Moon exact trine pr Psyche-Pallas and sextile pr MC
pr Pluto exact sextile pr Sun
pr Uranus square pr Psyche-Pallas exact
pr Priapus conjunct my pr name on 7 Pisces exact



and progressing his chart to M`s birth


pr Ceres conjunct pr ASC on 7 Aries exact. lol No more words needed I guess. (btw conjunct her n Sun by 1 degree - I guess this highlights her role in his life?)

pr Juno sextile pr Saturn and opposite n Venus exact

pr Jupiter conjunct his pr name on 10 Virgo exact
opposite
my pr name on 10 Pisces, pr Eros on 11 PIsces (within partile ocnjunction) and a bit widish pr Moon on 13 Pisces. curious

pr Moon also trines her pr name on 13 Scorpio exact.


pr Amor conjunct pr Mars on 12 Virgo exact


pr Lilith square pr Neptune exact

pr Sun on 2 Cap trine pr MC on 3 Cap, trine pr Vesta on 3 Taurus

on the other hand

pr Venus on 2 Aqua square pr Vesta on 3 and n Vesta on 2 Taurus


pr Priapus conjunct pr Psyche on 27 Aqua



I know I got off topic, and not sure what that all means anyway, if anything at all, but well I thought it was interesting. so regressing his chart to my birth comes up with a Moon-Pluto-conjunction in Libra in his 7th house natally, Moon is a bit wide of course 2 degrees off Pluto, however I do notice it occupies the exact degree of our composite Mars,


my to his birth progressed chart has pr Moon on 17 Aries, widely conjunct pr Chiron on 19 Aries in my natal 4th house, and of course this means that pr moon is conjunct my Draco Sun really (and btw his pr Moon is conjunct his Draco ASC exactly).


.... You remind me of who I really am?....



funny enough if I did a composite of these, which I am not sure i could, it would give us a Moon of about 20 Capricorn, conjunct our ACTUAL compospite Moon and actually even more precisley falling onto the MOon/Venus-conjunction-midpoint and exactly squaring our nodal axis. Skipped step anyone?











and have seen weird things like that, an apparent "planting of seeds." Like the whole design of time allows for us to see trajectories.

"Well his pr Mercury was on the same degree, 10 minutes applying to conjunct pr Podcasts DESC and our pr composite Sun."



"It`s quite interesting anyway that the ASC-ruler is Sun, and that conjuncts Venus in Gemini in 11th house, and adding to that the DESC-ruler Uranus, conjunct Moon (and Ceres) in Aries in 10th house.
No wonder they have mainly female audience. lol"

Oh how funny....that does fit! And I guess by the time sun-Uranus perfects, pr Mars will be in Sag? Then it really gets wild.

"Well it`s interesting that Moon is conjunct URanus, and actually I was first commenting (and probably thereby activating my personal "first podcast meeting chart" with them) when Moon had been exact on Uranus that day. I mean I don`t have an Aqua-Moon parallel Uranus for nothing I guess! lol Also that conjunction is just about 2 degrees from my Draconic Venus and even closer to his Draconic Desc (and in conjunction with his Draco Saturn-Vertex as well)."

Ohhhh....you know sometimes you say things spontaneously and attribute it to Sag Mercury....Aqua moon parallel Uranus is probably compelling you to engage in life more fully, too. I know that Uranus transits have sometimes made me want to take huge risks socially, like re-contacting people I haven't talked to in ages. But I have moon = Saturn/Uranus midpoint and usually don't cave in. Which makes life more boring perhaps.

I forgot you two have a draco Venus-DSC conjunction!

"almost like his Pluto in his own natal 7th house is trying to drag my Chiron out of the clinging to the old and even more out of the hiding place that a natal 4th house sometimes can be, and of course very literally dragging me a bit out of circling constantly around my family and instead trying to have a bit more individual fun in my life. Seems the podcasts Moon-Uranus-Ceres really emphasize this, too. though it is interesting that these are on my natal Chiron in 4th, but then again that is some aspect of the podcast that fascinates me, just how much I am recognizing my own childhood in this!"

Aw! Yes I know what you mean about recognizing your childhood, and that is such a remarkably intricate and yet fitting observation there.

Uranus-Ceres calls to mind strange food. Their type of bacon is strange indeed.

"But anyway I did check the progressed podcast chart and transit chart for the time last year, when they did the live video and P was suddenly addressing me personally. lol "

*nods* Data pointing to some friendliness there.

"Tr Mars opposite pr podcast Vertex by about 1 degree as well (so the Tr Mars-Saturn-opposition was highlighted, and was so on my Sun-Mercury-conjunction. and also pulling in pr Chiron on 24 Pisces lol)
Tr NN squyre pr Mars exactly"

Maybe these Mars oddities help explain the odd feeling you got from the podcast, as if P had things on his mind he wouldn't say. Gem Mars opposing Saturn, held back. NN square pr Mars...same thing, or rather...decisions might feel more consequential then.

"Tr Venus conjunct pr Uranus exactly, naturally."

I'm really fond of Venus-Uranus contacts.

Hmm, where is Uranus now? 27 Aries...trine your suns. I think it's almost a shame you've got Saturn on your suns at the same time, but who am I to tinker with the order of things. And Saturn can be a romance planet of course, as I was saying about Cap and the MC/10th house lately. Well you two are both romantics even with the drab and dreary Cap Venuses.