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Post by lucina on Jun 12, 2017 15:38:04 GMT
First of you can add your prenatal solar and lunar eclipse in the box on astro.com, at the bottom of where you pick the asteroids. The theory is that we are born with the imprint of the prenatal solar and lunar eclipse, which might have happened somewhen up to 6 months before our births. I am not yet completely clear on every detail, but some authors emphasize that these are very sensitive degrees, and often important people in our lives will have major planets on our prenatal eclipses and vice versa, and usually that is a sign that this is a karmic relationship (in the sense that they help us grow towards our path, esp. if the prenatal eclipse Sun fell near the North Node before our birth). Anyway I was just skimming the synastries of my parents and my brother and his girlfriend yesterday and I was really amazed. Actually I did not even look out for synastry, but was just curious twhere their prenatal eclipses would be, but the synastric connections just jumped out at me. I think especially the hard aspects within 4 degrees (as those are the ones most prominent in transits as well) to Sun, Moon, nodal axis, Lilith and Priapus (and of course to the angles and Vertex and chartruler and for me personally ruler of IC) are of most importance. (just because eclipses are events connected to the interrelation between Sun, Moon and earth, and all those symbols are falling into that area). Of course in romantic relationships a prenatal eclipse on each other`s Venus or ruler of 7th house might be very telling, too! It`s just I would take a special note if the planets that are involved in making the celestial event to begin with show up in the synastry. Sorry if that was too much lecturing here. lol But I am curious if your prenatal eclipses are aspecting your significant other`s chart that way, especially if it feels like a fated/ karmic encounter or union. (conjunction, opposition, square within 4 degree are the parameters I am looking for  ) |
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Post by lucina on Jun 12, 2017 15:51:30 GMT
Here are some examples of what I mean.
my parents
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Mom`s SE (solar eclipse): 8 Virgo (a South Node eclipse, as her SN is on 8 Virgo), conjunct her IC on 8 Virgo exact
there are no major aspects to my Dad`s chart, however when they got married he was having his Solar Arc Venus on 8 Pisces
Mom`s LE (lunar eclipse): 21 Pisces (a South Node eclipse and opposing her Venus)
opposite / conjunct my Dad`s Saturn-ASC on 18 Virgo
square his Chiron on 18 Sag
(opposite/ conjunct means that the Moon was opposite, the Sun was conjunct, as every lunar eclipse is a fullmoon; so her prenatal fullmoon sort fell fell along my Dad`s relationship axis)
Dad`s SE: 28 Libra (a South Node eclipse)
widely conjunct my Mom`s Sun on 3 Scorpio
Dad`s LE: 13 Aries (a South Node eclipse; Sun fell even closely to his Mars-SN in his chart)
opposite my mom`s Saturn on 9 Libra
square my mom`s Uranus on 13 Cancer
square my mom`s Lilith on 14 Cancer
square my Mom`s aSC on 12 Cancer
so they are both triggering each other`s Saturn, which are concerned with relationships in both charts (my Dad has Saturn on the ASC, as ruler of 5th house, my Mom has Saturn as ruler of DESC and 8th house in her 4th house).
And both are triggering each other`s ASC, and as it seems they are responding mostly to the lunar eclipses in each others chart (as fullmoons they are of course points of culmination, illumination and very emotional).
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Post by lucina on Jun 12, 2017 15:59:53 GMT
my brother and his girlfriend
my brother:
his SE: 23 Sagittarius (a South Node eclipse) square his ASC and widely conj. his MC
square her Sun on 26 PIsces (on his ASC)
square her Moon on 24 Virgo (on his DESC)
opposite her LE on 27 Gemini (!)
his LE: 8 Cancer (South Node eclipse) square his Mars-Vesta-conjunction, Venus is just out of orb
square her Mercury on 5 Aries
opposite her Jupiter on 10 Cap
square her Vertex on 9 Libra
conjunct her IC on 10 Cancer
his girlfriend:
her SE on 11 Sag (South Node eclipse) conjunct her Uranus-SN
conjunct his Moon on 11 Sag
conjunct his Jupiter on 10 Sag
conjunct his Uranus on 9 Sag
her LE on 27 Gemini (South Node eclipse) square her Sun-Moon-opposition
opposite his Neptune on 29 Sag
square his Vertex on 28 Virgo
square his ASC on 24 Pisces
conjunct his IC on 28 Gemini
So they have both their prenatal LE on each other`s IC, and their prenatal SE aspecting each other`s Moon.
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Post by lucina on Jun 12, 2017 20:01:13 GMT
my best friend and her husband
my friend:
her SE on 9 Taurus (South Node eclipse), conjunct her own Lilith exactly , square her Saturn
opposite his Uranus on 6 Scorpio
opposite his own SE on 10 Scorpio, whoa.
widely on his IC on 14 Taurus
her LE on 23 Scorpio
conjunct his NN on 20 Scorpio
opposite his LE on 25 Taurus
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her husband:
SE on 10 Scorpio (North Node eclipse) conjunct his own MC on 14 Scorpio, conj. his Uranus
square her Saturn on 11 Leo
opposite her Lilith on 9 Taurus
LE on 25 Taurus
conjunct her Avx on 25 Taurus
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Post by StarVega on Jun 18, 2017 20:15:23 GMT
^^ Aye, so...you already did the work for me, laying out the data regarding myself and my ex. Nah, but it's similar to what you said above. He's an early Taurus moon. So possibly, my ex's moon opposes my prenatal SE @ 10 Scorpio. Well enough about him, I've talked him to death, poor guy. (Though he should be flattered I cared so much, shouldn't he? Yes I thought so, too.) --My progressed sun conjunct my husband's pr DSC at 9 Aqua, conjunct transiting Uranus, when we got together. All of this squaring my prenatal SE @ 10 Scorpio then. Also squaring my husband's prenatal SE @ 9 Taurus as well. My husband's prenatal LE is widely conjunct my own prenatal LE. His prenatal LE conjunct his Vertex @ 22 Scorpio, conjunct my NN @ 20 Scorpio. List of eclipses if you don't feel like pulling up charts: cafeastrology.com/eclipsessolarlunar.htmlI've given other details here: forums.lovelightastrology.com/thread/167/prequel-first-chart?page=1&scrollTo=1746 |
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Post by lucina on Jun 18, 2017 20:37:03 GMT
Wow, about the prenatal SE figuring so strongly in your marriage progressions!
I`ve just realized that the upcoming Solar Eclipse is falling exactly onto P`s prenatal Solar Eclipse (orb is just 8 minutes!) and his pr NN:
I also recently noticed that the february Solar Eclipse was conjunct his Solar Return ASC exactly, and the upcoming august Solar Eclipse is going to fall onto my Solar Return DESC, opposing my Solar Return Mars and pr Venus on 29 Aquarius, and actually on HIS natal Priapus (and pr Priapus) on 00 Pisces and pr SN on 29 Aquarius - my Venus is applying to his Priapus and his SN; well Carol Rushman said in her book that progressions usually are started and ended by eclipses, so possibly this progression might be started by the upcoming solar eclipse in august.
I also noticed something else and that is kinda funny, but my Venus will enter the sign of Pisces EXACT on my next Solar Return. LOL To the day.
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Post by lucina on Jun 18, 2017 20:46:52 GMT
BTW speaking of eclipses, though it has not really to do with prenatal ones. lol
in january 2019 our composite will have an exact progressed fullmoon from Moon on 8 Leo to Sun on 8 Aquarius
also in january 2019 there will be a partial solar ecclipse falling exactly onto our composite Venus.
And a bit later in january, 4 days before our pr fullmoon, there will be a total Lunar ecclipse, falling exactly onto our composite DESC.
(and also I thought it was peculiar that our progressed fullmoon at its most exact, is accompanied by a transiting fullmoon, which is a lunar eclipse of course, as well)
But I was also noticing something about lunations, normal full and new moons in respect to the next concerts I am going to see him in july.
those are taking place on 14th and 15 july
and this is sandwiched in betweern
9th july: Fullmoon on 17 Capricorn (on our composite Venus on 16 Cap)
23rd july: New Moon on 00 Leo (on our composite DESC)
and curiously enough mimicking the eclipses of 2019 I just mentioned.
just that in 2019 it will be the New Moon (SE) falling onto composite Venus, and the Full Moon (LE) falling onto the composite DESC.
Still I thought that was an interesting mirroring there.
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Post by StarVega on Jun 18, 2017 21:48:59 GMT
"Still I thought that was an interesting mirroring there." Yes! And I'm sorry that I can't help seeing myself in this, too.... "Partial SOLAR Eclipse 2019 January 5 20:28:05 15 Capricorn 25 Total LUNAR Eclipse 2019 January 21 0:15:58 0 Leo 52" My sun 15 Cap in mutual reception with 0 Leo Saturn. Just finding it interesting how many of your key degrees with P match my natal chart. Your composite Venus = my sun Your composite DSC = my Saturn Your composite pr full moon will be on my ASC/DSC axis... I feel so nicely involved with all this, even as a bystander and co-participant in the energies.  Ahh, and the rare dream now and then, like living in some epic movie or modern-day fairy tale. |
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Post by lucina on Jun 18, 2017 22:01:58 GMT
Yes, it is amazing how you are involved in this! But it seems you understand our relationship better than I do. lol Well okay I don´t really understand it AT ALL. lol those eclipses will be important for you personally, too of course. esp. with the chartrulers involved. Ahh, and the rare dream now and then, like living in some epic movie or modern-day fairy tale. Yeah, well I am still pouting about his Mark chart with... not me.  |
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