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Post by sven555 on Jun 18, 2017 17:38:28 GMT
What do planets on the angles of a composite chart mean?
In one chart I share with someone; we have Pluto on ASC and Sun, Mercury on DSC, Saturn on IC, Chiron on MC.
Do they have any significance or is it only if your natal planets aspect them?
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Post by lucina on Jun 18, 2017 18:58:37 GMT
Whatever conjuncts the angles within reasonable orb, is being pulled into the foreground, becoming very obvious and will manifest in some way. So it becomes very important to analyze their overall aspects in the chart, and if two planets on angles aspect each other, they will become a really dominant feature in the relationship.
Of course this would be experienced even more personal and intimately if those planets were conjunct a natal or progressed planet in either chart as well.
I also consider planets on the Vertex and the nodal axis (and actually even those in close square aspect to angles) as major themes. it`s like they give sort of titles to your relationship story. Your very own movie-script. and they will at least be titles of certain chapter if not the whole movie!
In your case looks like a pretty dramatic movie, a transformation story (coming of age story even), one of the really serious sort, a lot of wounding energy is present, which would lead into a growth and learning process and the two of you will mature, it doe snot ncessarily need to be romantic (though it could be) but the friendship factor would be really strong, as well as the teaching and growing and guidance aspect. Maybe there would be some taboo involved, too, or digging out buried things from the past, could even be a family past.
Hmm, made me think of those movies from the 50`s like Cat on a hit tin roof for example, but at the same time for some weird reason also of Karate Kid. lol I guess especially the guidance factor, I could have named STar Wars, but there is no Uranus so far. The English Patient maybe, too?
Even Dangerous minds, and a teacher-pupil, connection could be. For Romeo and Julieet there is too little Venus, Moon or Neptune involvement here.
I`d check for some relevant asteroids though, too, for me personally I always check Lilith and Priapus (h21, h22) - no asteroids of course, and Juno, Ceres, Vesta, Pallas, Eros, Amor, Cupido and Psyche (though I tend to neglect Cupido occasionally).
Anyway Pluto on ASC probably would give the header of your film, so there would be either something dark or something very transformational in your movie, and the core would be Saturn on IC, which people might not see easily, so a Saturn-Pluto-theme hitting the real core of your relationship. That is why I was thinking of something dramatic, probably a really long movie.
Sun, Mercury and Chiron would be seen more easily about your relationship, so others might simply underestimate the sheer lasting power and persistance that your connection has.
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Post by sven555 on Jun 18, 2017 19:19:03 GMT
 lucina, thanks for such a detailed response; I have posted our chart here just in case you were curious  |
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Post by StarVega on Jun 25, 2017 14:23:30 GMT
That's an impressive composite. I like 8H Mars on the Vertex, and Venus on your sun, if that's a romantic connection.
Neptune squaring the nodes could indicate some problems with over- and under-idealization. As if sometimes, the relationship seems exalted and supplying "dream come true" feelings and other times, the context of relating becomes unclear, and blurred emotions are the result. Neptune is dispositing Saturn on the IC. Saturn-IC points to relationship longevity (I have this with my husband of 18 years), but with Neptune as the skipped step (squaring nodes) a decision like permanent commitment looks uncertain. I'd imagine some frustrations with trying to determine the exact nature and quality of the relationship. Pluto on the ASC opposing Mercury on the DSC might help considerably in sorting out those uncertain, foggy elements, as long as the communication actually happens. Pluto-Mercury can be ultra revealing or completely vaulted , or fluctuate, as if by revealing too much one time, a fear is born or revealing too much again.
With Mercury on the DSC, tightly conjunct 7H sun-Eros-Psyche I would say that communication is vital to companionship, and companionship may be vital to the partners themselves.
This looks like a significant composite, of a relationship that is destined and important.
Considering all the heaviness and meaning intrinsic to this match, the NN in the 11th house in Libra suggests the healing value of going out and having a good time together, amidst people, in fun places. You'd make good philanthropists...finding your peace as socialites and humanitarians, devoting yourselves to a higher cause, to alleviate some of the "black hole" energy within yourselves, but also to share that depth with others (Pluto-ASC)....Pluto can be healing, too.
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Post by StarVega on Jun 25, 2017 14:43:15 GMT
Composite with my husband:  Observations: * ASC-Mars-Juno, part of a kite formation: rushing into marriage * IC-Saturn, conjunct his moon: staying married a long time At certain critical junctures, it was his insistence on staying married that kept us together. Composite Chiron at the apex of the kite is tightly conjunct my moon. Posting this because I strongly believe that angle conjunctions in composite are significant. |
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Post by pufferfishy on Feb 13, 2018 1:15:50 GMT
What do planets on the angles of a composite chart mean? In one chart I share with someone; we have Pluto on ASC and Sun, Mercury on DSC, Saturn on IC, Chiron on MC. Do they have any significance or is it only if your natal planets aspect them? Omg, this is kinda like my composite with my best friend. In composite/davison, we have Venus/Mars/Chiron conj/opp. Saturn on the IC/MC axis. Moon on the Asc. We fight a lootttt.  But that's largely thanks to our bad mercury synastry. ^ In a romantic couple, that might play out differently? The plus side is, Saturn on the angles *really* keeps you together no matter what (almost). For you, Pluto on the angles would make you a very intense couple, stirring up things in each other that you hadn't encountered before? Sun/Merc on Dsc is really sweet. |
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Post by sven555 on Feb 13, 2018 15:00:49 GMT
Thanks for sharing pufferfishy! The pluto energy is present, but I think the blending with Sun/Merc and Saturn helps alleviate the heavy energy when it comes |
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But that's largely thanks to our bad mercury synastry. ^ In a romantic couple, that might play out differently? 