Tell me the story?

[StarVega]

Looking for clues: how did they feel in this moment? 

Gathering intuitive impressions...





Any observations appreciated

[pufferfishy]

Is this a progressed composite or natal?

[pufferfishy]

Wow, that seems like an ouchy configuration, to some extent. They're feeling hurt, or like everything hurts - but tend to get shut down by others if they voice it? At the same time, they're being more assertive than usual... Feeling like they have impetus to accomplish something.

Could by way off base, I am not good at putting those things together.. But those are my first impressions.

[pufferfishy]

In other news, I am no longer Devil's advocate. Sad.

[StarVega]

Oct 1, 2017 13:45:27 GMT pufferfishy said:

In other news, I am no longer Devil's advocate. Sad.

LOL, what do you mean?

Thank you, Your Pufferfishyness!

I'll see if I get any more answers before answering you. 

[pufferfishy]

Oh, I mean the title that appears below our screen-name. I'm now "Hermes' Agent".

[StarVega]

Oct 1, 2017 13:32:12 GMT pufferfishy said:

Is this a progressed composite or natal?

It's a picture of a moment when a decision was made.

I'll say more later....  

[lucina]

It was an extremely emotional moment, possibly it was both, very decisive but also confused (ASC in Cancer in the duad of Pisces, plus Neptune on the DESC of course).

The one making the decision probably was being signified by ruler of ASC, Moon in Aries conjunct Chiron (in the duad of Virgo - so whoever made the decision thought it was the "proper" one, reasonable even). However the conjunction of Moon with Chiron spells out how wounded that person felt, especially with Moon in Aries, which is emotionally raw anyway, and it is the most elevated planet/ conjunction, there right on the MC, it is like the most obvious part. Actually I´d say it was some kind of lashing out or trying to assert their standpoint, possibly on the basis of a deeply felt wounding, though of course Chiron can also mean healing, but somehow this looks more ouchy to me here.


The one the decision was affecting, Saturn in Libra in the Duad of Aries (hence re-emphasizing that opposition) and on the IC. They were more hidden, but at a deep place as well.

Now of course that Moon-Chiron is very closely opposing Saturn, so the two people in question were on absolute opposing ends, almost like in a battle-stance, or most withdrawn from each other (the opposition is the furthest a planet can be away from another), but at the same time there was still this magnetism, and people who had to do with each other. There was no indifference at all, but Saturn in Libra might have been acting rather nonchalant or as if they did not care that much, as well, Libra can evoke an impression of charm and grace in even the worst of times, that sometime is just a facade. (there seems to have been a lot of anger inside that person as well, with their significator in the Duad of Aries).


And then we find Neptune-Uranus on the DESC - this decision to them seems to have come completely out of the blue and seemed erratic and probably confused them a lot. They might have felt like the floor beyond their feet was being pulled away.


Anyway Jupiter trines the MOon-Chiron and the Saturn, so there might have been some benevolent mitigating factor going on, maybe introducing a feeling of meaning or purpose in a greater sense. or maybe it could have been healing after all.

I mean now remembering some of my eventcomposite with Saturn-Chiron-opposition were leading to the most wonderful results. lol (I still felt exhausted by these events though).

So probably all of what I just said was complete rubbish. lol

[lucina]

Also the DESC plus Uranus-Neptune, plus Saturn in the 4th house, could also indicate how that person was acting towards another one.

[sven555]

Moon in Aries with Chiron opposite Saturn in Libra on the MC/IC --> They felt oppressed, something was causing them pain or they felt blocked.
3rd house focus. --> Something related to communication, short trip? Maybe connected with their childhood?

This chart is hard to judge whether it is a natal chart or not, but if it is, then hope can be found via the trine to Jupiter in the first house.
Why?
Because the trine is closer than the opposition. I would say it was a major decision to move house/change location.

[StarVega]

Thank you pufferfishy , lucina , and sven555 !

It's an event composite chart: someone's natal with a moment they made a decision. I don't know what was going on with them emotionally when they made this decision, whether it was something they did or didn't care about. Moon on the MC was encouraging to me, as I was hoping they cared at least a little bit.

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pufferfishy

"Wow, that seems like an ouchy configuration, to some extent. They're feeling hurt, or like everything hurts - but tend to get shut down by others if they voice it? At the same time, they're being more assertive than usual... Feeling like they have impetus to accomplish something."

I'm curious what in the chart is pointing to getting shut down, if they voice it?

"At the same time, they're being more assertive than usual... Feeling like they have impetus to accomplish something."

I thought so, too. ASC sextile Mars, which disposits the moon. Jupiter in the 1H, trine moon.

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lucina

"Actually I´d say it was some kind of lashing out or trying to assert their standpoint, possibly on the basis of a deeply felt wounding, though of course Chiron can also mean healing, but somehow this looks more ouchy to me here."

Spot on. I think it seemed to them like the most reasonable thing they could think to do. Moon in Aries....well, actually they were probably only thinking of themselves.

"The one the decision was affecting, Saturn in Libra in the Duad of Aries (hence re-emphasizing that opposition) and on the IC. They were more hidden, but at a deep place as well."

That's me, I guess! The EVC Saturn squares my Cap sun, to the minute. It hurt me more than them, this whole thing, I'm pretty sure.

"Now of course that Moon-Chiron is very closely opposing Saturn, so the two people in question were on absolute opposing ends, almost like in a battle-stance, or most withdrawn from each other (the opposition is the furthest a planet can be away from another), but at the same time there was still this magnetism, and people who had to do with each other."

The end of a friendship. Weird, sudden ending.

"And then we find Neptune-Uranus on the DESC - this decision to them seems to have come completely out of the blue and seemed erratic and probably confused them a lot. They might have felt like the floor beyond their feet was being pulled away."

Yup. I thought it all would have happened differently, but they weren't focusing enough on me, to able to follow what I was doing and why, though it should have been clear. Not really my fault they weren't paying attention, though they probably see it that way and dislike me now.

"Anyway Jupiter trines the MOon-Chiron and the Saturn, so there might have been some benevolent mitigating factor going on, maybe introducing a feeling of meaning or purpose in a greater sense. or maybe it could have been healing after all."

I think so! So it's like "Damn, that was weird, but I'll be okay. I'm content with my stance."

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sven555

Yes, your analysis basically matches my impressions. It was a decision about moving on from a friendship.

[pufferfishy]

"I'm curious what in the chart is pointing to getting shut down, if they voice it?"
The Moon-Saturn opposition made me think that... Just invalidating the other's (or one's own) feelings..