Jupiter and Pluto in aspect

[sven555]

The energy is freeflowing StarVega. The universe cannot stop the flow.

I know a small amount of German haha, I used to enjoy singing Rammstein songs in German when I was younger; but I can't recall much. Quantum leap?
I was going to suggest a native partner also! lucina could help you with conversations. If you really want to do this full-on, hire a private teacher. Don't bother with college/school lessons; waste of time.

The transits are what you make of them; willpower will always prevail.

[StarVega]

LOL

It's weird, I know many Germans and never speak German with them. Possibly a fault of my communication squares (long story.)

I don't want a private teacher, it would be awkward watching them stare at me in amazement as I demonstrated how slowly I learn (Mercury opposing Saturn.) The local university might offer German. Hmmm I wonder if they offer classes for the community.

Midpoint discussion coming next.

[StarVega]

Planets activating the Jupiter/Pluto midpoint

Principle: A tremendous desire to learn and to grow, and to acquire power, be it of the more intangible, mental sort, or worldly in nature. Driving, unstoppable enthusiasm. A relentless urge toward excess. The ability to transform how things are organized. To have big ideas and far-reaching aims. Going to great extremes. The persistent urge to do whatever is needed to overcome problems. Grandiosity. Religious fanaticism.

Process: The building up of energy, enthusiasm and motivation to create changes. The transformation of one's life through intense positivity and willingness to grow

Sun: A person with a huge ego. The desire to be a high profile individual. To become a master of great powers. One who has extremely big goals.

Moon: The emotional desire for some form of grandiosity. One who has extremely strong emotions and who desires to see change happen in the world. To be impressionable to big ideas.

Mercury: To study things very deeply. To have an obsessive mind. To think big. To try to figure out a way to change things fundamentally and profoundly. To be highly impressed by philosophical ideas.

Venus: To be tremendously enthusiastic when in love and when relating to others. To desire relationships that are expansive and which grow and can be enriched. The tendency to be very free or even wasteful with money. The desire for a great amount of money. One is attracted to things that are big, overpowering, and grandiose.

Mars: You place high expectations of your own actions, are very enthusiastic about what you are doing, and expect to get a lot done. To go way too far in overdoing something. A person who will not be stopped.

Saturn: A desire to accomplish big things, but difficulty in doing so. A battle between the desire for excess and the desire to control oneself. One's growth is slowed down or retarded. The need to stop being obsessive about outer expansion and to turn toward deep soul-searching.

Chiron: Your vibration stimulates other people to be more enthusiastic and to take what they are doing far enough that they experience a breakthrough or transformation. You can also heal them of obsessive excesses by inducing them to see what it is that they really want. You can also intensity and transform their understanding of life.
Uranus: Having inspirations about how one can use a situation for personal expansion, or as a learning experience, or as a way of furthering evolution. A genius for knowing how to make something grow or evolve. The possibility that one's experiments will be wildly successful.

Neptune: To have grandiose imaginative visions. A tremendous willingness to do whatever one needs to do to help others. To motivate others and evoke great enthusiasm in them for the purpose of deceiving, using, or duping them.

Node: To be a big motivator of groups. To come together with others for the purpose of transformative expansion. One is needing in this lifetime to harness one's enthusiasm so that it can power one's evolution.

Ascendant: A person with a big personality. One relates to the world with a tremendous amoung of enthusiasm. To be willing to change when one needs to, and to overcome the limits of one's identity.

Midheaven: To have a great desire to achieve mastery. To be willing to put tremendous amounts of energy into one's work. The desire to be promoted and/or to progress in one's work. To experience great luck in one's work.

john-sandbach.blogspot.com/2010/11/planets-activating-jupiterpluto.html

To find your own midpoints:

1) Draw up chart at astro.com
2) Choose "Ebertin style w. midpoints" for chart drawing style
3) Click on Additional tables (PDF) over the chart, on the left side

It takes a bit of practice to adjust to their tiny font and format, and one must know all the glyphs for the planets to decipher the information. 

[sven555]

You keep feeding me with inspiration StarVega! I'll have to make another tool for something like this; small problem solvers like this go along way so you don't have to mess about to find out what aspects/configurations mean

[sven555]

My Jupiter/Pluto midpoint is at 6'18" Sagittarius.
My Mercury must be the closest through an opposition.

[StarVega]

May 21, 2017 20:32:16 GMT sven555 said:

You keep feeding me with inspiration StarVega ! I'll have to make another tool for something like this; small problem solvers like this go along way so you don't have to mess about to find out what aspects/configurations mean

You are like the Santa Claus of astrology! THANK YOU

But take your time, no rush! 

[StarVega]

May 21, 2017 20:34:23 GMT sven555 said:

My Jupiter/Pluto midpoint is at 6'18" Sagittarius.
My Mercury must be the closest through an opposition.

Greetings from my Venus @ 6°35 Sag. 

I suppose this means that when you get really intense (Jupiter/Pluto) about an area of study, you're bound to teach others (Sag), and maybe even provide learning tools like the ones you keep providing. And my Venus is going to be jumping up and down thanking you.

See, we are proving out astrology here.

You just reminded me that with midpoints, one needs to keep the orbs tight; I stay within a degree and a half.

And we use the 4th harmonic aspects: conjunction, opposition, square. 

[sven555]

Haha i'll just put it in the pipeline; i have made the current tools very modular, so things can be copied with ease without having to rebuild alot I'll have to reference a thanks to John Sandbach's blog for the good information

[StarVega]

Thanks!!!

I'm curious about where this midpoint point falls in the charts of various famous people and leaders, as it's a "power point"...so I'm compiling a list.

[StarVega]

Jupiter/Pluto midpoint (mp) in charts of famous people

Abraham Lincoln
17.51 Pisces mp 
Conjunct 18.33 Pisces POF 
- Chiron transiting @ 17.03 Pisces when he was assassinated.
- Transiting Jupiter/Pluto mp @ 5.40 Pisces then, possibly square tr ASC (he was shot "just after 10 pm" - 10:05 pm chart has 7.41 Sag ASC)  
- Lincoln had a wide Jupiter-Pluto conjunction in his natal: 22.05 Pisces Jupiter, 13.37° Pisces Pluto

John F. Kennedy
13.09 Gemini mp
Conjunct 12.18 Gemini sun/Venus mp
- Pluto transiting @ 14.04 Virgo when he was assassinated
- Jupiter/Pluto mp @ 26.56 Gemini that day, square Mercury/Node mp @ 26.35 Virgo

Martin Luther King, Jr
9.09 Gemini mp
Conjunct Mars/NN midpoint @ 9.41 Gemini and moon/Neptune midpoint @ 10.14 Gemini. Square 10.33 Pisces Venus
- Jupiter/Pluto midpoint transiting @ 8.36 Virgo, square his own Jupiter/Pluto mp, when he was killed.

Adding more later

[lucina]

My sun and Mercury Fall into my Jupiter/pluto

[StarVega]

May 23, 2017 14:00:49 GMT lucina said:

My sun and Mercury Fall into my Jupiter/pluto

I love that. Well my sun is close to the MP....less than 2° on the far midpoint. 

I cannot believe that I started this thread with 

sun = Jupiter/Pluto midpoint

without even realizing it!

Edit: Actually the sun was applying to a conjunction with the Jup/Plu mp when I started the thread (1.41° orb), but I was posting here through the conjunction. 

And of course, last night there was a terror attack....in that chart:

1.57° Gemini sun
1.25° Sag, Jupiter/Pluto midpoint

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Well I don't want to mix apples and oranges but maybe there is something spooky with this midpoint.

Around the time I was born, paranormal activity was allegedly reaching a crescendo at the house of the Amityville Horror. 

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Then this morning my son came downstairs very freaked out that his computer turned turned on by itself in the middle of the night; at 3 am to be precise. 

* edit

[lucina]

StarVega

I don`t know if that has anything to do with the Jupiter/Pluto-midpoint (not usually at least, though in my case it actually might be with Jupiter and Pluto ruling 1st and 12th house so bringing the tangible ind irect contact with the intangible).


Anyway 2 or 3 days ago after seeing King Arthur, I was starting to feel uneasy. This did not have to do anything with the film, but for some weird reason that horror vision I had as a youth came up once more, and well my parents and me were also talking about the trip to Cornwall, and for some reason I mentioned Manchester in the talk, which did not make any sense at all, and I think I have never mentioned that city before in any talk before.

I also wrote in a mail to someone else, that the energy started to feel dense again, well I do get the feeling, rarely luckily, as if I can sense something "being on the prowl", not a real human being, but more like some sort of predatory energy searching for an appropriate subject to anchor to. I don`t know, it was just weird.

And when I was walking into the city yesterday and passing by a dead bird, I was getting REALLY uneasy. I used to see dead birds when something of my Twin Peaks Trauma came to the surface (as it had done 2 days before of course), but this time it was worse than that. Cause someone had sort of "arranged" the bird. It looked like it had been carefully placed in the way, and someone, maybe just kids, had put some money and other things around it and on top of it, and as irrational it sounds, it really crept me out, as it looked so "sacrificial/ ritualistic". I actually, did what I don`t do usually, I was preying that moment for "the inhabitants of this city to be safe tonight".
Well turns out I should rather have prayed for Manchester.


I did not really take these premonitions serious, cause well I was just being irrational, right? Emotionally riled up by something, but fact is there seems to be a pattern of me noticing the change in energy around me all at once, finding dead birds (always dead birds, never anything else) and then something really bad happen, usually on a more global scale interestingly, not so much within my indidivual environment (thank God!).


But while I was overreacting emotionally most probably, it did feel like the gates between the spiritual and the physical world were incredibly thin, or let`s rather put it that way WIDE OPEN.


Still thinking I was overreacting, but then you tell me of these things, and someone else independently also told me about strange things happening (like cold wind in closed rooms)

[StarVega]

lucina

I also saw a dead bird just lying on the road a few days ago and took it as a bad omen. I actually startled and thought, "What?! NOW? Why?" I walk around the neighborhood on a regular basis and have never seen a whole dead bird lying on the ground. Vultures are active around here, and so are landscapers who clean up the area. So a dead bird in my path was extraordinary.

Maybe there really is something creepy about Jupiter/Pluto? It's a line of inquiry I want to investigate.

I'm not amazed that you mentioned Manchester; knowing you, I would be amazed if you didn't.

All I really noticed was a kind of "spike" in the self-critical energies around that time: my son getting really annoyed with himself for a mistake with school work....my usually composed best friend emailing me and tearing herself apart...things like that. The overall energy did feel like it was straining towards some kind of breaking point, but I didn't see this coming at all. No precognitive dreams this time. (And honestly, I'm grateful for that. Those dreams are just another layer of sorrow to bear up under as I watch the news unfold.)

[StarVega]

Forgot to say, I love this observation:

"I don`t know if that has anything to do with the Jupiter/Pluto-midpoint (not usually at least, though in my case it actually might be with Jupiter and Pluto ruling 1st and 12th house so bringing the tangible ind irect contact with the intangible)."

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