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Post by starcrossed on Feb 11, 2018 6:44:47 GMT
Can anyone tell me what you see between these two charts? The nodes in opposition are of interest to me. Unfortunately I do not have the correct birth time for male so I set it to 12:00 pm. Is it possible to see a theme even without the birth time? Thank you in advance.
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Post by StarVega on Feb 12, 2018 2:34:26 GMT
Hi starcrossed The nodes are not in opposition in this synastry. However, the man's sun, Mercury, and Neptune are conjunct the woman's south node. So these two people will make sense to each other, there is a strong mutual understanding. His planets fall in her 5th house and trine her Leo ASC, so they ought to stir up a lot of fun and excitement together, especially with her dynamic moon-Jupiter-Uranus stellium in Sagittarius. If her sun is sextile to his moon, their emotional natures are also fairly compatible, though she may not quite grasp just how sensitive he is. With his Cap south node and Sag stellium, his outward behavior is going to seem cool, controlled, and outgoing. He needs to learn to trust his feelings more, and if these two people have their moons in a quincunx aspect, they may sometimes clash for mysterious reasons that set him back a bit. Meanwhile she is needing free communication with that Gemini north node and could lose patience with people who hold back too much and require special treatment before they will open up. Still, they could get along well. Both have earth Mars and probably like the same activities. His Mars is ruled by Mercury and squares her Gemini north node, also ruled by Mercury. So any arguments will probably be instructive and may help her sharpen her mind and debate skills...or remind her that humor and Gemini silliness is often a great solution when things get too heavy and jammed up.
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 12, 2018 5:36:48 GMT
Hi starcrossed The nodes are not in opposition in this synastry. However, the man's sun, Mercury, and Neptune are conjunct the woman's south node. So these two people will make sense to each other, there is a strong mutual understanding. His planets fall in her 5th house and trine her Leo ASC, so they ought to stir up a lot of fun and excitement together, especially with her dynamic moon-Jupiter-Uranus stellium in Sagittarius. If her sun is sextile to his moon, their emotional natures are also fairly compatible, though she may not quite grasp just how sensitive he is. With his Cap south node and Sag stellium, his outward behavior is going to seem cool, controlled, and outgoing. He needs to learn to trust his feelings more, and if these two people have their moons in a quincunx aspect, they may sometimes clash for mysterious reasons that set him back a bit. Meanwhile she is needing free communication with that Gemini north node and could lose patience with people who hold back too much and require special treatment before they will open up. Still, they could get along well. Both have earth Mars and probably like the same activities. His Mars is ruled by Mercury and squares her Gemini north node, also ruled by Mercury. So any arguments will probably be instructive and may help her sharpen her mind and debate skills...or remind her that humor and Gemini silliness is often a great solution when things get too heavy and jammed up. Thank you so much for the quick reply! The female chart actually belongs to me. I may have left that part out somewhere I'm sorry. I assumed because his north node is in 5th house and mine in 11th house it would be considered an opposition. What do the nodes denote? One is letting go of the past and other is moving towards the future yet they are going towards eachother. I get an image of the infinite sign when I describe this. You are right when you mention that he can seem cool and controlled. Sometimes too cool and I can't tell whether he's feeling anything. We have had a very unconventional relationship where we have gone and come back together for short periods in a span of 5-6 years. Sometimes this reemergence can just be through the phone. We have very similar interests and I can see us having a lot of fun but most importantly I felt we had the same values/views. I ended it when I decided to take care of my own health but he wanted to continue whatever relationship we had established, which wasn't much. But the most peculiar feeling the night I ended it was a feeling of shock. I realized that I was looking at a reflection except he embodied what I wanted to be too. We never got to a point where I could observe his range of emotions and how I would react to them. I knew what I felt for him was too intense and didn't want to scatter my energies and neglect my health in 2012. I last saw him once in 2015 and when I messaged him in 2016, I didn't get the best reception. I guess he was tired of the same song and dance. I implied that I wanted him to open up a little emotionally and he countered with me "trying to muddy the waters". I really needed some validation that whatever I was feeling was not unrequited. But then again what was I expecting, I was never able to show him my "dynamic moon-Jupiter-Uranus stellium in Sagittarius". I was too sick to even get the chance. I have never been the same since meeting him. I wish to forget him but can't. There was a random incident where he and his friends ran into my sister at an event in 2016 that housed thousands of people. They didn't know eachother but she recognized him from pictures. How serendipitous is that? He called me from her phone but was very cold. I wish on some days I can forget him cause it does hurt tremendously. It hurts because I never had a real chance when life got in the way. He's probably moved on yet I'm here still yearning for him and wishing him the best. I'm so grateful I was given an opportunity to feel this way towards another being..but at the same time..it hurts. I guess I was hoping to get clarity so I know where to direct my focus.
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Post by StarVega on Feb 12, 2018 15:16:45 GMT
Hi starcrossed, Oh I see -- you meant, opposition by house. Since you don't have his actual birth time, the house placements in his chart do not apply. The sense of attachment you talk about, that could be many different things, astrologically. With his planets on your south node, it could be difficult to move on, especially since his Neptune is there. It may be hard to get a sense of closure. You said that you had ended it...that is rather typical for sun-south node synastry...it's usually the node person who feels a need to move on. Also I think his planets on your south node help explain the fact that you seem to keep bumping into him, or your sister saw him in a crowd, and things like that. "I guess I was hoping to get clarity so I know where to direct my focus." Sounds like you are on the right track, focusing on your health and recovery. Love yourself, take good care of yourself. If you're feeling well, with high energy, who knows where you'll go in life, who you'll meet...there are new things waiting around the corners, to help you move along. Creativity is healing. Especially with that Gemini north node, you might ask yourself, "How does this experience enrich my ability to communicate...how do I channel this into expression...how does my expression help others?" My father had your same nodal axis. He overcame an addiction and attended support groups for many years. It didn't seem like anything, really, for him to tell his story. But he was so relatable that many people have told us that he saved their lives. Losing all the grandeur of the Sagittarius south node can be really hard...you're left asking yourself, "What do I make of life now?" And Gemini NN is masterful at finding the extraordinary in the ordinary, and helping others see it, too. So, if you are an artist, a writer, someone others turn to for stories and entertainment...all of these outlets can make you a potential healer, in the way you put your experiences across. You are probably growing into an excellent ability to live in each moment and see how profound everyday occurrences can be. While I know what you mean about being grateful that you were able to care so much, it's also wonderful to be at peace with endings, or at the very least, to relinquish control...or even incorporate your experiences with this person into your own brand of "magic"...where you know what's good, and you strive to communicate that with others. Your Gemini north node in the 11th house is built for communicating in a way that helps others evolve. As you speak of heartbreak and loss, for example...it reminds me of my own, and it reminds me that it's okay to talk about it. Normally I just act like everything is fine (Scorpio north node in the reclusive 4th house!) Wishing you all the best!
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Post by pufferfishy on Feb 13, 2018 1:02:05 GMT
I realized that I was looking at a reflection except he embodied what I wanted to be too. ^ That could also be your venus opposite his Sun/Merc/Neptune. That stellium on your south node is a big pull indeed. His Uranus on your Moon-Jupiter-Uranus stellium probably makes it feel electric, exciting to be with him? Never knowing what's round the corner, but excited to find out. His Sun/Saturn sextile makes him more controlled & measured than your regular Sag fella, and the conjunction to Neptune mellows it out even more. Your moon finds resonance in his Sun - even though they're not conjunct by degree, having them in the same sign gives that same feeling of ~completeness~ or, longing for completeness. I like the Venus/Venus and Mars/Mars sign sympatico. Those planets, being in the same elements, lend an ease to relating, a harmonious give-n-take. However, his moon in Cancer tells me he is not one to open up that easy - which might frustrate your Sag moon. If you are looking to make things work, trust your Taurus mars instincts of going slow and putting in the work (his Virgo mars will appreciate that). If you are looking to move on, I'm banking on your your Sag stellium to works its magic and help you bounce back, happier than ever.
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 13, 2018 2:32:52 GMT
I guess this question can be addressed to both StarVega and Pufferfishy. With such a powerful pull of my south node, what were the chances of it becoming a fruitful long term relationship? I have read that it's better to have a heavy North node influence if there was going to be any future for the union. StarVega- I ended it never intending it to be forever, if that makes sense. When I became ill, time stopped for me and I guess a part of me has hoped that somewhere, somehow either of us would reach out. Funny you mention my inclination for creative endeavors. I still feel like an infant in this arena but I was constantly drawing as a child and then became very poetic as I grew older. I tend to write in a very "flowery" language and when I have to communicate in a normal way, it becomes awkward for me. Incidentally, at one of my lowest points I started reminiscing about him and I penned a poem that encompassed our connection. My friends found it thrilling as I left it with a cliffhanger. Bear in mind, I had not written a poem since my teens at that point and had no idea how that came out the other end of my pen. Thank you for sharing your feelings on heartbreak and loss. It's the only universal language we know. Heartbreak, loss and love. Your dad's story is such a sweet redeeming story. I hope I can one day have as much impact and touch people in a way where it not only heals them but liberates them. pufferfishy- "Electric" and "exciting" are some very accurate words. There was an undeniable electric pulse between us and life seemed shinier when I was near him. This is a man who lived a very extravagant life and was like a human sponge. His mind intrigued me and the more time I spent knowing him, the more I admired his mind. He was very experienced in many areas of life whereas I am not and I could also detect some vulnerability behind his cloak of extravagance, yet I couldn't reach it. I love it when people are open with their feelings, that way I can feel safe to come out of my shell and be open with mine. He definitely built up a wall. But something within me believed that we would work so well together...if we had a chance. I'm not sure if I want to move on. Maybe the choice will be made for me against my will. Maybe I'll find out he's married or taken. From my vantage point, it will take a little longer to rebuild my body/mind/soul before I can consider being inclusive with another human being. Who knows who we will be then. I suppose if nothing comes out of it, I'll always have my Sag stellium pixie dust that I can sprinkle on someone lol. With that being said..is there a way to see if someone from the past can come back into their lives? Your replies have been so appreciated!
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Post by lucina on Feb 13, 2018 10:28:10 GMT
Who knows who we will be then. I suppose if nothing comes out of it, I'll always have my Sag stellium pixie dust that I can sprinkle on someone lol. I like that very much! We cannot say for absolute certain of course, but I`d expect to see heavy SN-involvement if someone from the past comes back into your life, along with Saturn-transits probably. And also checking for progressions (but keeping it to one degree at most). Possibly oppositions in the Draconic chart, too.
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Post by sven555 on Feb 13, 2018 13:52:29 GMT
starcrossed, If you want to tag people, use the '@' symbol followed by the user's username
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 13, 2018 14:40:51 GMT
lucina, this is great additional information! I'm a newbie at this so I have a lot to read up on. If you don't mind me asking, where is the preferred Saturn transit? 5th house? Over certain planets? sven555, is this correct?
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Post by sven555 on Feb 13, 2018 14:45:33 GMT
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Post by lucina on Feb 13, 2018 16:55:21 GMT
starcrossed not necessarily, maybe the 5th house works, too, but I`d look out for Tr Saturn conjunct DESC, Venus, ruler of DESC, and maybe then ruler of 5th house or planets in these houses, if you think of a romantic old flame to come back into your life. For other blasts from the past other planets might be relevant. For example if it is about family or an emotional connection, without the romantic implications, you might find Tr Saturn going over Moon. Tr SN works the same way. Also if outer planets transit our natal South Node we can expect something tremendous coming (back) into our life. Not always a person though, could be a mindset, an emotion, too. Hmm, I see that Tr SN was being conjunct your DESC recently (around november last year) - did anything from the past come back into your life? Or how did you experience that transit? Of course Tr NN was also conjunct your ASC at that time.
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 13, 2018 18:17:05 GMT
Just my luck..I wrote a whole post and somehow it only posted the first sentence. I'm rewriting in hopes I can remember the gist of it. lucina hmm November is all a blur. Maybe it was due to the freezing rain and snow. How long do these transits last? I just had a flash of memory and now that you mention it, I found it very peculiar at the time. I haven't been able to do much on my own and in November I finally recovered enough energy to enjoy a day to myself. I made reservations for a venue in November I believe and it just so happened to be the place where we met for our first date. I just love how the place makes me feel alive. Unfortunately night before I came down with the cold and had to rebook the reservation. They automatically chose a second date for me on Dec 11-12th. I didn't think much of it till I got home but I realized that it fell on his birthday! I swear I may have stopped breathing for a second when the revelation hit me. The synchronicities never ceases to surprise me. Does this count for the transit? Of course I would have preferred the actual person over a memory but I will have what I can.
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Post by lucina on Feb 13, 2018 18:38:09 GMT
How long do these transits last? According to Celeste Teal an event manifests within 4-6 weeks, surrounding the exact aspects, usually with an orb of at most 1 degree, though she sais that it usually is closer to half a degree. So by december that would have been out of orb; though an Aquarius-ASC is a fast rising sign, so if your birthtime is even a little earlier, it might have denoted that timespan. The synchronicity is undisputable, it is astounding! Yes, but I checked in the ephemeris, and saw that at that time Tr Saturn was within one degree conjunct your natal Neptune, which is just such a HUGE transit in my book, shortly speaking a karmic test to your dreams and hopes. It can be crushing by realizing what has gotten lost and was never more than a dream, or it can actually be a time to start working very earnestly to build something from your dreams. Whatever it will be it is a peak moment, and a moment of "crisis", in the sense that a decision about what path to follow is being made (though sometimes not consciously by ourselves, sometimes outer events happen that sort of push us somewhere, a facing up to the dreams that never have a chance to live and need to be left behind, but also confronting us with those, that actually SHOULD be worked on and can be brought into manifestation). For you, a while before this Tr Saturn had been transiting your SN, which is a very past oriented, revisiting the past in particular, transit as well, and with his planets on your SN it seems like you were doing some serious thinking about "what is this for REAL"?. What can it be? What will it be? Unfortunately we do not always get instant answers to these questions, but they need to be asked in times like this I suppose.
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 14, 2018 3:08:18 GMT
This makes a lot of sense seeing that Neptune is signification of dreams and illusions. For the longest time I questioned whether this was real or if I was just being obsessive. I even tried dating someone else casually afterwards just to see if I was able to forget him. He lingered in my forethought like a neon sign reminder. I think there is only one thing that can lay my mind and heart to rest in the near future and that is to hear it from the horse's mouth. If there is unequivocally no interest in me then I can close that chapter. If there IS some interest..well..then I may just figuratively die from my heart stopping.
You are right. There is no instant answer which makes this unbearable. Everything is timed with precision and must unfold seamlessly. On the other hand, if I knew too much it would certainly take the exciting surprises out of the great things that are to come.
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Post by StarVega on Feb 14, 2018 5:14:05 GMT
I love your writing starcrossed. So glad you're into astrology! We need all the talented writers we can get, to make this study more interesting, credible, & real. Be back soon with more thoughts.
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