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Post by starcrossed on Feb 15, 2018 19:45:04 GMT
Sorry to bother but is there any way to see if marriage is promised in my chart?
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Post by lucina on Feb 15, 2018 20:05:49 GMT
There is no such thing to see. I mean, if you meet the right person (or even wrong person) and want to get married, you can get married with any chart. There is no placement that dooms marriage prospects nor guarantees such a thing.
Having said that I have a very marriage unfriendly chart. lol
A lot of planets in Sag plus Venus in cap and Moon in Aqua, all personal planets gathered in personal houses (1st mainly, with Moon in 2nd, chartruler in 3rd) - pretty much nothing going on in the relationship houses (except Saturn in 8th, and that is no real joy either I suppose).
However someone else with my chart could definitely have gotten married, who knows?
What I can say about this chart is that it shows someone (me. lol) who is very concerned with individual development and with an emphasis on independence, and possibly with little NEED for relationships. It seems that people with full 7th houses and so on, just need to be around people, can hardly be alone, and need to be in a relationship (not all of course, as I said, no guarantees in either direction); whereas my chart sais that I am pretty much about developing my self. Now having said that that does NOT mean I might never get married (well probably I won`t), but what it maybe does mean is that because I am not so concerned with relationships in the first place (personal romantic relationships I mean) I probably would not even register a potential mate coming up to me. And if getting married, then only on the basis of compatibility. I think I would always put myself first, or let`s say, I would rule out quickly any candidate, that does not fit my "frequency".
However, if you want to get married eventually, then no horoscope can tell you that you won`t.
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 16, 2018 4:07:49 GMT
There is no such thing to see. I mean, if you meet the right person (or even wrong person) and want to get married, you can get married with any chart. There is no placement that dooms marriage prospects nor guarantees such a thing. Having said that I have a very marriage unfriendly chart. lol A lot of planets in Sag plus Venus in cap and Moon in Aqua, all personal planets gathered in personal houses (1st mainly, with Moon in 2nd, chartruler in 3rd) - pretty much nothing going on in the relationship houses (except Saturn in 8th, and that is no real joy either I suppose). However someone else with my chart could definitely have gotten married, who knows? What I can say about this chart is that it shows someone (me. lol) who is very concerned with individual development and with an emphasis on independence, and possibly with little NEED for relationships. It seems that people with full 7th houses and so on, just need to be around people, can hardly be alone, and need to be in a relationship (not all of course, as I said, no guarantees in either direction); whereas my chart sais that I am pretty much about developing my self. Now having said that that does NOT mean I might never get married (well probably I won`t), but what it maybe does mean is that because I am not so concerned with relationships in the first place (personal romantic relationships I mean) I probably would not even register a potential mate coming up to me. And if getting married, then only on the basis of compatibility. I think I would always put myself first, or let`s say, I would rule out quickly any candidate, that does not fit my "frequency". However, if you want to get married eventually, then no horoscope can tell you that you won`t. Terrific points. I have made an observation that has more to do with a soul/spiritual aspect than it does with an astrology aspect, since not many people are aware of astrology. It occurred to me that some people whom I have come across, the ones who are indifferent about marriage tend to stay single and make the most of their lives with whatever pursuits they choose to follow, whereas the ones who get married indefinitely(whether it's harmonious or not is up for debate) are the ones who feel there is another half out there somewhere that completes them. Perhaps this falls under the magic that is known as the Law of Attraction. Our soul yearns for the lesson we need to learn. So my theory is, we already know what is in store for ourselves on a higher level. Or maybe I'm full of hogwash lol |
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Post by StarVega on Feb 16, 2018 19:17:52 GMT
Sorry to bother but is there any way to see if marriage is promised in my chart? It looks like your progressed sun is conjunct your natal Venus and heading into a conjunction with your NN. According to some astrologers that is a key time of one's romantic life, progressed sun conjunct natal Venus or progressed Venus conjunct natal sun. Also I checked your Juno -- commitment & marriage asteroid. Yours @ about 21 Pisces, in your 8th house. My Juno's opposite, on 19 Virgo. The heliocentric north node of Juno is 20 Virgo, not sure how to explain those nodes, but having a planet on its helio nodes adds emphasis and weight to it, as you may already know. I always just assumed I would get married, no question about it, maybe that's my Juno on Juno's helio north node. Perhaps your uncertainty is partly linked to your Juno being on Juno's helio south node? Also your Juno widely squares your Venus, there can be a sense that you might have to give up some romance in order to marry (?) Your Juno and Venus t-square this Sag's sun. Aspect completion, he helps merge your desires into one picture. That suggests a strong bond, with some of the tension of the t-square. |
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Post by StarVega on Feb 16, 2018 19:36:51 GMT
I guess this question can be addressed to both StarVega and Pufferfishy. With such a powerful pull of my south node, what were the chances of it becoming a fruitful long term relationship? I have read that it's better to have a heavy North node influence if there was going to be any future for the union. StarVega - I ended it never intending it to be forever, if that makes sense. When I became ill, time stopped for me and I guess a part of me has hoped that somewhere, somehow either of us would reach out. Funny you mention my inclination for creative endeavors. I still feel like an infant in this arena but I was constantly drawing as a child and then became very poetic as I grew older. I tend to write in a very "flowery" language and when I have to communicate in a normal way, it becomes awkward for me. Incidentally, at one of my lowest points I started reminiscing about him and I penned a poem that encompassed our connection. My friends found it thrilling as I left it with a cliffhanger. Bear in mind, I had not written a poem since my teens at that point and had no idea how that came out the other end of my pen. Thank you for sharing your feelings on heartbreak and loss. It's the only universal language we know. Heartbreak, loss and love. Your dad's story is such a sweet redeeming story. I hope I can one day have as much impact and touch people in a way where it not only heals them but liberates them. Thanks for your reply. I've also been wondering if north node connections are better. It seems south node connections are complete and cozy to the point where you may feel like you're not being driven to evolve. Meanwhile NN conjunctions can drive you crazy as you feel like you are headed somewhere together, but can't always close the gap. My Venus was right on my ex's NN, and I don't know if I ever truly loved him. I liked him a lot sometimes. My husband's nodes and Vertex axis are both on my nodes and that has all been quite fateful (long story). Maybe nodes function best with axes...axises...axii? *asking internet* www.grammar-monster.com/plurals/plural_of_axis.htm Axes. Those things. Like the angles, Vertex, nodes. That's really amazing that you could just come out with a poem that thrilled your friends.  I guess the depth of your feeling helped shape it. So sorry that you've dealt with illness, I hope your guy understands the big picture, and why you would fade out, needing time to tend to yourself before you could be fully in a relationship. Maybe it's really just on pause? Who knows what might happen again in the future. I'm curious about your composite and progressed composite if you care to post them....maybe that holds clues for what's happening. Thanks for your kind words about my dad. <3 |
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 17, 2018 4:55:25 GMT
StarVega LOL the grammar check is something I would totally be doing. I'm going to do more research on the Juno Helio South node. I know there's just too much material to cover in these posts. However, I do worry it's in my 8th house. No one likes an association with THAT house  I hope something happens soon with the progressed Sun with the natal Venus cause it's starting to look like the barren lands here. That's not to say that I don't get a lot of attention in my daily life. I always find myself approached by men but nobody who stops me in my tracks and their attention actually catches me off guard cause I'm a bit self-conscious at the moment. Instead I sort of find myself heading for the door ie. when at the grocery store. Maybe the Sun is amplifying the Venus aura within me. If I was to marry that soulmate of mine, I imagine I would have to sacrifice alot of romance. He's just too practical for that fluff! I have attached my composite and progressed composite charts. I hope I set them up correctly. It mentioned that it is a composite and progressed composite chart with the mid-point and I'm not sure what that means. PS. I'm so fascinated by your node on node synastry with your husband. I would love to have that with someone! But I'm sure it comes with its own baggage that needs to be worked out. P.P.S. I keep reading that the Vertex is more fateful than the nodes. Not sure if that applies here.  
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Post by StarVega on Feb 17, 2018 14:33:20 GMT
starcrossed I do think the node conjunction was a major factor with my husband and I getting together. He's 18 years older. Still there was something about him that was so familiar...my friends who were my age (same NN) even noticed it..."Why is he like us?" None of us knew real astrology back then, just sun signs and maybe a bit of rising signs. So we had no answer. I don't know much about the Vertex, though I've tried to learn. If my chart is correct, my Vertex is on my father's ASC and my husband's draconic sun. Meanwhile, my father's Vertex is on my ASC and my husband's tropical sun. Isn't that weird? My father and husband are almost nothing alike but long after I got married I saw there are many astrological similarities between them. Ha, that wasn't intentional at all. But it's part of the fatedness I was alluding to. Anyway...thanks for posting those charts! The composite has that wide sun-Uranus square, the orb is wide enough that it shouldn't be TOO much of an aggravation, though it matches the ups and downs you've described. I see Jupiter is transiting on your composite Jupiter in Scorpio, that must be pulling your attention towards this relationship, as there's something in the atmosphere lately that just feels resonant with the energy between you two. Also, transiting draconic Neptune is conjunct your composite Pluto. I sound obscure mentioning draconic transits but you seem open-minded so I'll just offer up the possibility that it's only natural to be feeling a spiritual connection to the deepest parts of your connection with him right now. The fact that in your progressed composite, Venus opposes Pluto -- that just adds more intensity to this whole picture. With Saturn transiting on composite south node in Capricorn, you may be dealing with a sense of past lives together, or even a solid assurance that there is something eternal about your connection, something that cannot be squashed out no matter what happens. It just seems so permanent and real. Then, depending on his birth time, there's a chance that your progressed composite moon is on the south node...conjunct transiting Saturn as well. So whatever coldness is there at this point in time, it's sensitively felt, probably on both sides, but there may also be a sense of repression....emotions that are stuck or cannot be fluidly expressed. And you know, the progressed composite sun is squaring the nodes, too. The moon will move off the south node but that sun-node square will be tightening in upcoming years. It's very compelling. I don't know how he could think of you and avoid the sense that you two have unfinished business together. It really is a fateful time in your relationship. What it is that you two have to work out, I have no idea, but I take that as a sign that the Universe has sort of wrapped an invisible cord around you both. Whether you interact or not, you affect each other. He might have you on his mind a lot, or things that happened between you are influencing his decisions now. That's my guess. Guesses Do you ever consider draconic charts? Are there any conjunctions between your draconic charts, or between your tropical and draconic charts? No need to answer if that's not an area of astrology that you're interested in.
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 18, 2018 2:09:37 GMT
StarVega It would appear that you have found your "soul group" as they call it. You are so lucky to have so many ties that you can feel comfortable and vulnerable with knowing that they get you at a level that no one can. I have heard of the term Draconic on many occasions but I have yet to grasp what it fully entails. All I have gathered is that it is the birth chart calculated at a different degree/angle and has more future predictive connotations? I consider myself more open minded than not. The more "out there" the concept is, the better My only question is how all this interlaces together. It's like each composite is a layer upon another layer to get a full picture. I imagine this would take quite some years to really feel comfortable with. So basically these transits and natal positions may give a glimpse into what the heart and emotions are realizing but it may not actualize into physical form. As in, he may be thinking of me but there's a possibility he may never take action and bring our persons together. Is that the case? I know my feelings are certainly repressed and I felt his were either repressed or he was confused. One year he tells me that I just kept coming up in his mind. He didn't say a sweet "I missed seeing you", just a "Oh I remember you and wanted to see what was up" type deal. That shows you that he tries to keep himself safe. Then there was years later when I spoke to him last, after I kept shooting him down due to my hidden health issues, where I asked him if he ever felt anything specific for me. I wasn't looking for a praise of love, but just a specific feeling that maybe he couldn't pinpoint, like I was feeling. He gave a very frustrated and cold "Nope". That was it but everything he has ever done or his actions he ever displayed proved otherwise. He got very frustrated I wouldn't leave my comfort zone. I just couldn't. My hands were tied. Reading your reply a question came to me. You say that it's as if there's an invisible cord around us, how do we know it isn't possible to have that cord wrapped around someone else? If a person comes across hundreds of people a day, how is it possible that someone else does not have the same configurations in their charts or the same fated node connections. After all, there's only 12 houses and the same number of planets and nodes. How do I know I'm not waiting for that node on node type person? or if I'll come across 100 node on node persons. What separates him from someone else? How this all works still baffles me. I'm very excited about the next upcoming years. Hopefully I can heal enough by the end of this year and work on my studies/career and relationships. I'll be 35 by the time April comes around so I don't have that many advantageous years for building a family of my own. I feel like life hasn't really started for me yet despite being in my 30's. Regarding the Draconic charts, I made ours but they look similar to a natal chart. Am I doing it correctly?  
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Post by StarVega on Feb 18, 2018 13:30:57 GMT
Sigh...I just lost a long reply...  I thought I could type a lot, click on those charts, and revisit my writing. But my writing vanished when I clicked on the chart. Maybe that's a sign that I should take a different approach. Be back later, thanks for the reply. |
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Post by sven555 on Feb 18, 2018 16:32:21 GMT
Sigh...I just lost a long reply... I thought I could type a lot, click on those charts, and revisit my writing. But my writing vanished when I clicked on the chart. Maybe that's a sign that I should take a different approach. Be back later, thanks for the reply. Press and hold the CTRL button on your computer and then click on the chart. OR Right click and select "Open in a new tab"  |
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Post by StarVega on Feb 18, 2018 20:26:51 GMT
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 19, 2018 6:05:56 GMT
Sigh...I just lost a long reply... I thought I could type a lot, click on those charts, and revisit my writing. But my writing vanished when I clicked on the chart. Maybe that's a sign that I should take a different approach. Be back later, thanks for the reply.  That's similar to what happened to me at the beginning of this thread. Don't sweat it. Share your thoughts whenever you get the time to |
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 24, 2018 20:30:50 GMT
Hi StarVega, when you get a chance I would love to know your thoughts from before. |
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Post by StarVega on Feb 26, 2018 0:20:24 GMT
Hi StarVega , when you get a chance I would love to know your thoughts from before. Sorry for being soooooo slow, starcrossed! All these Pisces planets squaring my Gemini Mars actually shut me up for once! lol But I'm getting my momentum back. I'll be back tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for your patience. |
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Post by starcrossed on Feb 26, 2018 6:36:14 GMT
Hi StarVega , when you get a chance I would love to know your thoughts from before. Sorry for being soooooo slow, starcrossed! All these Pisces planets squaring my Gemini Mars actually shut me up for once! lol But I'm getting my momentum back. I'll be back tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for your patience. Oh yeah no problem! I was just hoping you didn't forget about me lol I tend to do that on forums sometimes so I thought I'd send out a Morse code  Something is definitely happening in the skies. I feel low energy and lethargic. FUN FACT: In the middle of my post that includes my Draconic charts, I wrote that I couldn't be with him because "my hands were tied." A few hours later I had an urge to watch a movie called "The Greatest Showman" but it was not out on DVD yet. So I settled on youtubing one of their songs off the soundtrack called "Rewrite The Stars" and one of the lyrics that was sung at the end was: "You know I want you It's not a secret I try to hide But I can't have you We're bound to break and My hands are tied" I think the Universe has a good sense of humour  |
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I guess the depth of your feeling helped shape it. 
I hope something happens soon with the progressed Sun with the natal Venus cause it's starting to look like the barren lands here. That's not to say that I don't get a lot of attention in my daily life. I always find myself approached by men but nobody who stops me in my tracks and their attention actually catches me off guard cause I'm a bit self-conscious at the moment. Instead I sort of find myself heading for the door ie. when at the grocery store. Maybe the Sun is amplifying the Venus aura within me.
That's similar to what happened to me at the beginning of this thread. Don't sweat it. Share your thoughts whenever you get the time to 
Something is definitely happening in the skies. I feel low energy and lethargic.
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